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Rhum Agricole

Fresh sugar cane juice rhum from the French islands.


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Old 12-30-2008, 12:24 PM   #1
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Default Berling S.A. Vieux Labbй from Haiti

I originally joined the forums to find out about this rhum because it had been in the liquor cabinet for a couple of years after being acquired in the Port au Prince duty free shop. We finally opened it last night, and I'm going to try to describe my impressions of it. I've found a couple of other posts on this rhum since I first asked about it, so I'm hoping that others will help out with their reviews.

The nose and main flavor profile are like smoky caramel/butterscotch. I live with a single malt scotch and bourbon aficionado, and there are shades of both in this rhum. It has a depth and richness to it that I have not had before in a rum, but I am not familiar with agricoles, so I don't know if these characters are commonplace or not. If I hadn't poured it myself, I can't say that I would immediately recognize it as a cane spirit.

My previous forays into aged rums have been with Appleton, so this experience was completely different. In the spirit of full disclosure, after I took a few sips, the remainder of the glass made its way into a spiced cider toddy that was quite delicious.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:29 PM   #2
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Linda...Happy to hear that you finally cracked the bottle.

I would not assume that the bottle you have is a sugar cane juice rum...Unless you have some evidence of such. As you may know, the Berling Company is an off shoot of the Barbancourt family..But is not related in business to the Barbancourt Rum widely available in the USA.

Can you shed some light as to why you think the Berling is produced from juice as opposed to syrup or molasses?
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:05 PM   #3
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To be honest, I assumed "rhum" from Haiti meant agricole, although I've read recently that even Barbancourt doesn't always use cane juice. I did know that Haiti has no AOC agricoles. So it was a potentially ill-informed and possibly incorrect guess.

It's my understanding that they have more in their line up than the original gold label now, so next trip through Haiti we'll pick up a few more bottles. It really is lovely stuff.
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... I did know that Haiti has no AOC agricoles. ...
The AOC designations are particular to the nation of France, including overseas departments such as Martinique and Guadaloupe, aren't they? Haiti has been a separate republic since 1804 when independence was declared, or 1825 when France agreed to recognize Haiti in exchange for reparations.
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The AOC designations are particular to the nation of France, including overseas departments such as Martinique and Guadaloupe, aren't they?
Could be. I assumed (again, perhaps incorrectly), that if a French/Creole speaking country decided to standardize processing and product, they would use the term "AOC" as the designation. Particularly because the Caribbean doesn't have anything like the EU's PDO. Or perhaps they do. Anyone?
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"Appellation d’origine contrôlée (AOC), which translates as "controlled term of origin" is the French certification granted to certain French geographical indications for wines, cheeses, butters, and other agricultural products, all under the auspices of the government bureau Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (INAO)."

from Wikipedia AOC Listing.
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The AOC designations are particular to the nation of France, including overseas departments such as Martinique and Guadaloupe, aren't they?
You are correct Michael. AOC is particular to France. AOC RHUM AGRICOLE is only approved for Martinique at this time. Guadeloupe is in the process of applying for AOC status...We can expect a "length of time" to pass as the Guadeloupe producers who wish to participate come to terms on the standards for their product.
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I am really interested in this rhum. I hope I get the opportunity to try it, or some how it comes to the US.
A part of me hopes that maybe Guadaloupe does not standardize, as I like the products that are distilled there now.
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I would not assume that the bottle you have is a sugar cane juice rum...Unless you have some evidence of such. As you may know, the Berling Company is an off shoot of the Barbancourt family..But is not related in business to the Barbancourt Rum widely available in the USA.
Can you shed some light as to why you think the Berling is produced from juice as opposed to syrup or molasses?
The website says they use molasses and cane juice, so I decided I would give it a try. From Linda's description it sounded more like a molasses rum than a cane rum. Initial impression was a little dissapointing after such a build up. I certainly am not convinced it is a cane juice rum, but then again it would be hard to put Barbancourt in the same group as rhums from Martinique. Mind you, I was at a wedding yesterday, so my taste buds and my head are a little dull!!
I see three different labels on the website, I am trying the one with the white label. It is not a bad rum, just lacks a little body, similar to a Dominican rum, light body. In a blind taste test I definetly would have would have gone across the border. I'm not sure it is very old, judging from the colour and taste, fairly light brown to straw. Not the usual tastes for a cane juice rhum, so who knows, maybe it is a blend of both???
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I'm sorry it was a disappointment. I think, from what I see on the website, you have the youngest bottling they offer, I've got the five-star mid-grade, and then there is a ten-year black label high-test. I don't know how much aging will change rums having never tasted my way through a series of the same brand (which I really should do).

Can you explain what criteria you use to tell an agricole from a molasses rum?
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