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Old 05-16-2007, 06:37 AM   #11
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Default My 2 cents re W&N 17YO

ok, so here my take on the whole thing...

back in my days with Appleton i remember Angus mentioning the 17YO and how wicked it would be to get his hands on some. I gave it some thought and contacted Joy before I went home to Jamaica one X-mas, asking her if there is any chance of getting my hands on a few - a couple actually - bottles. she came back to me and said that she found some stock collecting dust and that I should pass by her blending hall while back on the rock...

so I did, and I got the 2 bottles that I asked for - 1 I kept, and still have it, no ABV statement on in but i was told 77.6%, labeled as 'Trader Vic's Personal Selection' - and the other I (think) i donated to NHRC. Realizing the 'buzz' that it created I asked joy if there was any more 17YO lying around, because if so, I would definitely like to get my hands on some more - and she told me there were 6 more, which were all brought to the UK around 2004/2005 - cant remember exactly. hey, i drink rum..!

I therefor must agree with Angus - It seems a bit dubious to me that new bottles are continually creeping up everywhere, and I hope it doesnt destroy the authenticity of the original 8 bottles that were found. that would be a real shame. i have not done any counting as to who has what, where, when, how and why as the bottles were handed over when I left Appleton UK and worked for the European office, but I do know that the original 8 bottles were brought in to the UK - at first 2 and then an additional 6.

Hope this sheds some light on the issue. I may just go ahead and 'kill' my bottle soon and when I do I will invite you all over for what may be the last batch of true Trader Vic Mai Tai's..

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Old 05-16-2007, 06:48 AM   #12
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Default my 2 cents Re. W&N 17YO

Quickly wanted to add that I of course do not know all the rum stores that W&N have in Jamaica, so there could well be more 17YO lying around.

In no way did or do I mean to discredit Joy - who is an amazing person & I consider a good friend, a master blender par none and a person of the highest integrity - but I also know that marketing departments sometimes get carried away, and like I said, just wanted to see if I can help shed some light on the issue. but the discrepancies in ABV's does raise some questions..
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:01 PM   #13
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My Canadian Appleton says that they cut our bottles to 60% but interestingly says that this does not affect the total number of bottles in the world (huh?)

But this is getting hinky... I did not know that Andreas has one so that makes

1 for me
2 for IPB
1 for Merchants Hotel
1 for Ian Burrell
1 for Glen Hooper
1 for Trader Vic London /James Robinson
1 for Andreas
3 in Canada...

hum...

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Old 05-16-2007, 07:23 PM   #14
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Default Another one ?

What about the one that we (Angus, Ben Reed Glen Hooper and myself) used at the Soho Hotel for that press afternoon with Joy ? Or was that one of the bottles that ended up at IPB ?
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:16 PM   #15
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this from Jamaica

"The reason for the difference in strength between the UK and the Canadian stock and the stock for our private collection is that the courier companies (DHL FEDEX etc.) are not allowed to carry spirits at a strength higher than 60% so we had to reduce the rum from the barrel strength to 60% in order to ship it to Canada (and at the time we reduced all the liquid that we had left so the 3 remaining bottles are also at 60%). The Trader Vics Rum that was sent to the UK was sent in a sea shipment, where they do not have the 60% strength requirement, so we were able to send it out at the strength that it came out at barrel strength."

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Old 11-28-2010, 02:53 PM   #16
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this from Jamaica

"The reason for the difference in strength between the UK and the Canadian stock and the stock for our private collection is that the courier companies (DHL FEDEX etc.) are not allowed to carry spirits at a strength higher than 60% so we had to reduce the rum from the barrel strength to 60% in order to ship it to Canada (and at the time we reduced all the liquid that we had left so the 3 remaining bottles are also at 60%). The Trader Vics Rum that was sent to the UK was sent in a sea shipment, where they do not have the 60% strength requirement, so we were able to send it out at the strength that it came out at barrel strength."

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Hi all,
Can anyone tell me what the original strength of the 17 YO was ???
I'm guessing it weighed in at about 40+,
If so how can an original TVs 'Mai Tai' be recreated with a sample of 77% rum ?
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:23 PM   #17
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To the best of my knowledge the original 17 year old Appleton rum was bottled at 77%ABV.
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To the best of my knowledge the original 17 year old Appleton rum was bottled at 77%ABV.
So the original TV 'Mai Tai' had 2 ounces of 77% rum in it - wow,
that seem's fairly hefty for the average punter,
just as well it ran out after a couple of years :-)
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Holy crap!

This stuff is everywhere - I just found one under my bed!

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