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All of the ingredients in a cocktail contribute to the experience.


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Old 06-25-2008, 07:49 AM   #21
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So its no wonder then that Bittermens have to wait so long to get their bitters out on the market..

Last thing i read from their website is: "May 21, 2008
We're now on our second round of reviews with the TTB in order to get certified for production"
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:35 AM   #22
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I second Forrest's assessment of the current bitters discussion. The legal thought (in the US) goes back to the legal exclusion of "bitter"s" (non-potable Abbott's, etc.) from Prohibition's ban on alcholic potables. Bitters (non-potable) "slipped in" under the need for digestve aids under the banner of accepted medicinals. The argument presented in Washington at the onset of prohibition was that bitters could not be drunk in large enough quantities because they, well, tasted too bitter (or bad, in large quantities) to be drunk as a cocktail/spirit/intoxicant in their basic form. There were secondary thinking regarding whether a bitters could be successfully diluted! Anyway, a lot of this thought worked its way into the goverment's present stance and regulations. The shorthand, if you will, is that bitters get to be classified differently than potable spirits, wine, and beer/ale. So, to sum it up, tradition helped pave the way. Also, to further complicate matters, some states which have "dry counties" regard bitters as they would any other alcholic beverages and ban their sale. In most of these counties, non-potable bitters were once allowed for sale and only became contraband after many prohibition laws were replaced with "blue laws".
Not all the bitters are undrinkable in large quantities though. The (French/Italian?) winner of the Angostura global cocktail competition served a drink that used a 35ml measure of the bitters......and it tastes very interesting
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The (French/Italian?) winner of the Angostura global cocktail competition served a drink that used a 35ml measure of the bitters......and it tastes very interesting
I`ve read so much about that drink! i would like to try it!
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Not all the bitters are undrinkable in large quantities though. The (French/Italian?) winner of the Angostura global cocktail competition served a drink that used a 35ml measure of the bitters......and it tastes very interesting
Perhaps taste is not everything. Imbibing 35ml of herbal extract admixture one would imagine might not be the best thing for one's digestion or general health, particularly if said substance is usually used in dash quantities, not over an ounce in one cocktail.

Would it be inappropriate to conjecture that such a cocktail would need to include a large quantity of sweet elements to offset the preponderance of bitter? That sounds like another trial for the digestion, perhaps better avoided by the less hearty forum members.
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It wasn't balanced with sweetness actually, and there's no reason you couldn't imbibe that amount.

Mickael Perron from Angostura was in the competition and he posts here from time to time. What was the recipe Mick?
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Not all the bitters are undrinkable in large quantities though. The (French/Italian?) winner of the Angostura global cocktail competition served a drink that used a 35ml measure of the bitters......and it tastes very interesting
i'm sure it is a matter of intense obtusion/ preferentiallity that defines something as "drinkable/ undrinkable".

i, being a bitter individual, drink / taste these things all the time, and would also love, love love to try that cocktail.
if you find it please post!!

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Not all the bitters are undrinkable in large quantities though. The (French/Italian?) winner of the Angostura global cocktail competition served a drink that used a 35ml measure of the bitters......and it tastes very interesting
Wow, I'd have to give that one a try. Please don't consider what I am saying about the legistlation to mean that the government has it completely correct in every instance. And I also know that there is probably some cult out there which drinks 250ml of Fee's and chases it with 100ml of Regan's #6 on a regular basis. But, that was the government's perception of Angostura when they deemed it non-potable and fit for a much lower FedTax.
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Bitters were first made to cure stomach disorders, so it wont do any harm to imbibe some. I drink the Swedish bitters sometimes even out of the bottle but mainly mixed in tea .A dash almost daily, its good.
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Not Mickael, but I can post the Angostura drink he's been popularizing:

Trinidad Especial by Valentino Bolognese - Italy

30 ml Angostura Aromatic Bitters
30 ml Orgeat Syrup
20 ml Fresh lime Juice
10 ml Pisco Mistral

Shake hard and long, and strain in a martini glass (or shooter glasses to share)

For those of us in the US, 30ml is about an ounce.

Angostura bitters are over 90 proof, so maybe sharing isn't a bad idea...

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Trinidad Especial by Valentino Bolognese - Italy

30 ml Angostura Aromatic Bitters
30 ml Orgeat Syrup
20 ml Fresh lime Juice
10 ml Pisco Mistral

Shake hard and long, and strain in a martini glass (or shooter glasses to share)
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i know what i am having tonight!! (Must get limes...)

Michael-- Not balanced by sweetness?? 1 oz of orgeat.
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