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Old 10-22-2008, 09:18 PM   #1
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First off, new guy here. I do enjoy rum and it appears that this is the place to come for information. I asked a question a couple of years ago on some other rum forum that had almost zero hits and my question went unanswered.

Is there a way to buy a barrel of rum? I would prefer Appleton but any quality dark rum would interest me. A collectors or limited edition of 5 or 10 gallons would be ideal (to keep cost reasonable). Maybe it is just me, but I would like to say, "I buy my rum by the barrel".

The closest I can find is the do it yourself kit at 1000oaksbarrel.com. My understating is rum is usually placed in used whiskey barrels and these new barrels would age rum differently than real rum barrels.

While typing this it occurred to me to ask if anyone has used a new oak barrel to store their rum? If so, did it age the rum favorably?

I wanted to ask this question in the Appleton thread but when I log in the thread disappears and when I return to it through my cache it says I cannot access the page.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:35 AM   #2
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Maybe it is just me, but I would like to say, "I buy my rum by the barrel".
Crikey az1919, how much rum do you get through?

One of the great things about buying rum in more regular-sized containers (i.e. 75cl bottles) is that you can keep dozens of different examples at one time, and then sample whichever one you want whenever you want.

However, I cannot really see the advantage of keeping rums by the barrel. Can you let us know your reasons?
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:17 AM   #3
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hmm... interesting idea... I, too, wonder about the advantages of doing this. I doubt you'll have much success buying a large bulk quantity from a distiller and getting it back to the states. If you want to do this just for experimentation purposes or to 'have a barrel of rum' I'd go with the 1000oaks barrel - they are available with a 'light char' in 3 or 5gal, I believe, then get a quality light rum that can be had fairly cheap - I'd go with Cruzan light (~$15/1.75L) and put it in the barrel If you'd like to age it and add more oak /smokey flavors and darken it, I've had good success at taking thin strips of oak and charring them on my wood fired grill and inserting them into your aging rum. (the more strips, the more surface area, the quicker it 'ages') Let age and enjoy! By the time you buy the barrel, the rum and let it age, you are probably better off just buying a bunch of quality rums, but if you want to age it yourself and have a barrel - there you go!

The other option - at least around here - one can buy used whiskey barrels at the farm store to use as rain barrels. But that is a LOT of rum!!!eek.gif
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:29 AM   #4
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First off, new guy here.
Well then first off-- welcome to the for-rum az1919!!

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Is there a way to buy a barrel of rum?
Here are a couple of ways:

Tanduay

Ron Barrelito

Probably hard to get shipped from wherever to wherever, if you can even order them, but both are great rum makers..

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The closest I can find is the do it yourself kit at 1000oaksbarrel.com.
That site looks like a good deal..

Here is a Rye /Corn Whiskey distillery that has a combo package including a barrel- maybe they will sell the barrel separately??
Or maybe you could just get the barrel (or any barrel) and purchase bulk rum from a 'regional' distiller???

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While typing this it occurred to me to ask if anyone has used a new oak barrel to store their rum? If so, did it age the rum favorably?
That is a good question, i sure someone somewhere has, but i haven't heard about the results. . . it sure sounds interesting..

Well have fun in your search...
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:24 PM   #5
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I have numerous small oak barrels, some with rum in. The best results have been to use white rums. Older rums don't have as good a result as you alter the original blend with the extra oak contact. I have a barrel full of Castillo Silver that has changed clour and profile tremendously after several months. I have emptied a couple of Brugal aluminum barrels into oak barrels, that was pretty successful. Failures have been a small spanish oak barrel I filled with Admiral Rodney. It is now very oaky and almost undrinkable, nothing like it's original smooth blend, even when I keep topping it up. I just acquired a personalised 1824 Angostura barrel. I have only put one bottle of 1824 in it and will drink it quickly so it doesn't alter the blend too much. All sorts of small oak barrels are avaiable on eBay, I even got an old British Naval Grog Tun recently, one of my prized possessions now, with "God Bless The Queen" in brass letters on the side.
It is nice to pour the rum from a barrel and looks great on any bar.
St.Nicholas Abbey in Barbados are offering barrels of rum for sale and they will even bottle the rum for you when it is aged to perfection. That might be worth a try:-
http://www.stnicholasabbey.com
I have a spare 195 liter barrel full of 2 year Angostura rum, available for $650 but pick-up only!!!!
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:12 PM   #6
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I have a spare 195 liter barrel full of 2 year Angostura rum, available for $650 but pick-up only!!!!
I love that one! That's the real deal.

I have just ordered a 5 litre new American oak barrel from Thousand Oaks Barrel Co. Medium char. After curing the barrel, I'm filling it with Ron Canita white rum from Trigo Co.

I'll have a sample for those of you who are attending the Puerto Rico Rum Fest in late January.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:58 PM   #7
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I have numerous small oak barrels, some with rum in.

I have emptied a couple of Brugal aluminum barrels into oak barrels....

I have a spare 195 liter barrel full of 2 year Angostura rum...
I am imagining all of this... These are the posts that live for!
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I'll have a sample for those of you who are attending the Puerto Rico Rum Fest in late January.
Looking forward to that. That is a pretty good rum, I picked up a bottle at San Juan airport on my way to St.Kitts earlier this year. Now you don't have to go back through security at Miami Airport I can put rum in my carry-on. I also got a bottle of Don Q Anejo and Barillito 3 star on the way back. I hope to hunt down some new rums for my collection while there for the rumfest in January.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:21 PM   #9
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Or maybe you could just get the barrel (or any barrel) and purchase bulk rum from a 'regional' distiller???
Only a few distillers can actually sell you alcohol from their still. In accordance with the three tier system, distillers have to sell to distributors who can only sell to distributors who can only sell to the trade.

A few small distillers have been able to get state licenses so they can sell bottles in their gift shop.

A few years ago I aged some rums bought at liquor stores and aged it in a small barrel. In a cool climate it isn't too hard to keep up with the evaporation, but the wood influence can be hard to manage unless you have a lot of thirsty friends.

On my boat I keep a 5 liter barrel of rum and top it off with various bottled rums from the island liquor stores.
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A few years ago I aged some rums bought at liquor stores and aged it in a small barrel. In a cool climate it isn't too hard to keep up with the evaporation, but the wood influence can be hard to manage unless you have a lot of thirsty friends.
Good points Ed. I think in order to manage the oak influence, I will draw off two or three litres into clean bottles when I determine enough flavour imparted. Then top off the barrel with fresh rum. Having a stock of "bottled" home aged rum for give aways, or to bring to a gathering would be a fun thing I think.
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