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Old 12-09-2008, 05:58 PM   #1
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Default Zaya Grand Reserve 12 yr

Got to finally try this stuff in the Rum Jungle at Mandalay Bay hotel in Vegas. This is now my premium rum. Dont need anything else. I was happy with Pyrat, and Eldorado 15 yr, and London Dock for mixed coke drinks, The rest were experiments that were Ok nothing great. Goslings black seal, Angostura 1914, Flora De Cana etc all have interesting flavours that are good as a change up. But Zayas wonderful smoothness, the warm feeling like a nice port the lingering carmels and vanillas that have you sucking every last drop to the taste buds, the nasal flooding of that sweet flavour.
Room temp , straight out of the bottle and a soft chair.
Unfortunately I will only get it rarely. At 68 dollars a bottle in a neighboring province, WHEN they can actually get some, means it will remain a luxury. I brought back the 2 bottles allowed from Vegas at a price of 26 bucks. If I ever get back I will bet a case and pay the damn 100% tax at the border. I also had a friend bring me back a bottle of Anniversario for the collection but havent tried it yet to tell you what I think.
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:43 AM   #2
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My only problem with the Zaya is that it has almost too much vanilla. The first time I had it, I instantly suspected it of having vanilla flavoring added. Kinda like how the Pyrat rum has a bit too much orange to be completely natural...
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:40 AM   #3
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Have had the same thoughts regarding vanilla with Angostura 1919.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:37 AM   #4
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You took the words right out of my mouth bunnyhugs.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:48 AM   #5
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I really don't like the vanilla taste in the 1919. Is the vanilla taste in the Zaya the same ?
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:22 PM   #6
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I really don't like the vanilla taste in the 1919. Is the vanilla taste in the Zaya the same ?
Just in case it hadn't been noted,the producer of Angostura rums (1919 etc.) is the current producer of Zaya rum.

Whether or not Zaya is the same or as intense a vanilla influence as the 1919 - I'm not prepared to say I'm certain of. Vanilla seems to be a signature nuance in Angostura's rum. Current bottles of Zaya do display the signature characteristic.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:16 PM   #7
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I really don't like the vanilla taste in the 1919. Is the vanilla taste in the Zaya the same ?
I notice a distinct petroleum taste in the Angostura rums (1919, 1824, 5 yr dark and 3 yr white) that I don't particularly care for. The one bottle of the Trinidad Zaya that I have doesn't seem to have that flavor, or it's much more subdued. As compared to Angostura 1919, I find the Zaya to be much more enjoyable, though both have a pronounced vanilla flavor.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:22 PM   #8
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My only problem with the Zaya is that it has almost too much vanilla. The first time I had it, I instantly suspected it of having vanilla flavoring added. Kinda like how the Pyrat rum has a bit too much orange to be completely natural...
I fully agree. I much prefer the Guatemala version of Zaya and the Pyrat XO from prior to Patron taking over as the importer (2005?).

I really dislike the fact that in life many really good products reduce quality/chage formula in favor of quantity. This is by no means to say the current Zaya or Pyrat are of sub-standard quality, I just prefer the previous version. Who knows, the best rum ever could have stopped production 200 years ago.

I am glad Chris found something he likes. I am glad for him yhat they just now started to produce the Trinidad version. This should ensure a healthy supply for some time. My advice would be to check back in to this website from time to time so that you can get advance warning if "they" change Zaya again.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:32 PM   #9
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I don't know about the new Zaya, not having sampled it yet, but I re-visitied 1919 last night and was surprised at how much vanilla I found in my bottle.
I didn't remember it as quite that dominant. The bottom line is that I agree completely regarding that rum's profile. I have to acknowledge though that I rather enjoyed it.
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:02 PM   #10
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My palate is not the best by any means but vanilla is one of the things I always pick up in the Angostura rums. I love them, the 1919 and 1824 make great sippers as does the new Zaya. Our new Bambarra Reserve is a cross of the 1919 and 1824. The cheaper Angostura's are also great, the Royal Oak, Single Barrel and Oal Oak. If I had to move to Trinidad I could survive!!!
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