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Old 04-19-2011, 03:57 PM   #1
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Hello, and thanks for a wonderful rum information resource.

Some of you may know me as the maker of Marteau Absinthe, and know that I'm soon opening a distillery in Seattle, Gnostalgic Spirits, after having first produced Marteau in Switzerland and then Portland, OR. If you didn't, now you do!

Along with absinthe I plan to produce other historic-styled spirits, including rum. Everything will made using old-school low-tech equipment and historically authentic processes and ingredients.

I don't use a "hybrid" pot still with a column and all the modern attachments and doo-dads, I use a pot-still, custom-made to a 19th century design. And it works really well, too.

My original plan was to focus on rum as my primary product to support the more niche product, absinthe, which is my particular area of expertise. The Puget Sound region's maritime heritage made rum a sensible choice.

Unfortunately due to changes in WA liquor laws a few years ago, until there's a substantial sugar industry in WA state, that won't happen: in order to maintain the privileges of on-site sales and tastings, 51% of my product must be made with WA produce.

Any WA cane farmers should please contact me... but it's not very likely and I don't expect it.

Anyway, thanks for having me; I look forward to learning more from you all.

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Old 04-19-2011, 10:26 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forums, seems WA doesn't have a monopoly on seemingly, crazy alcohol laws. I look forward to your contributions to the forums.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:05 AM   #3
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:41 PM   #4
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Even if there are no cane growers, is there anyone in WA producing molasses?

An extreme longshot, I know, but worth a try.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:14 PM   #5
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Thanks all.

Demonmonkey, I'm still learning about the sugar industry itself, but I'm not sure anyone transports cane juice that far to be processed. It start fermenting pretty quickly.

But even if the molasses was produced in WA, it still wouldn't qualify unless the cane was grown here. The law apparently isn't about supporting local businesses, it specifically about promoting WA agriculture. They even inserted the statement "Distilling is an agricultural practice."

In fact, if someone in Thailand (for extreme example) was making GNS from 100% WA grain, one could theoretically buy that, proof it down, bottle it as WA vodka and still qualify as a WA "craft" distillery. It's nuts. I had a guy from the LCB suggest that it would be okay to use WA-produced beet sugar to make rum with.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:26 PM   #6
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There's a distillery here in Madison, WI -- Cane and Abe Freshwater Rum -- which uses sugar beets grown somewhere in the US. I haven't tried it yet and don't know where they get the sugar beets, but you'd have company making American rum from beets.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:31 AM   #7
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There's a distillery here in Madison, WI -- Cane and Abe Freshwater Rum -- which uses sugar beets grown somewhere in the US. I haven't tried it yet and don't know where they get the sugar beets, but you'd have company making American rum from beets.
According to the TTB Standards of Identity it's not rum if it's not made from a sugar cane product. An alcohol made from sugar beets cannot legally be called rum.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:52 AM   #8
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Add to that that making rum from beets is like making raspberry jam from blueberries.

Sugar cane has a specific flavor that is imparted to rum during the fermentation and distillation process that cannot be replicated by using beets....I find the very idea abhorrent.

Beet liquor might be excellent but it will NEVER be rum.

Btw try using turbinado sugar instead of white sugar and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Old 05-14-2011, 05:31 PM   #9
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Welcome to the forum neighbor!

I have looked into the possibility of making rum from locally grown sugarcane (juice or crystals) or a byproduct of sugar manufacturing (molasses) in WA..you are correct the law poses a large barrier to producing "rum" here. However, growing certain strains of sugar cane is theoretically possible in some parts of EWA (eastern Washington) but I have yet to hear of anyone pursuing it. Seattleites, as you know, are up for a challenge, so who knows..

Hope to meet you over a rum sometime soon!

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