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Rhum Agricole

Fresh sugar cane juice rhum from the French islands.


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Old 04-15-2014, 06:36 PM   #21
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Has anyone tried Clement Canne Bleue?
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:15 PM   #22
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You're roughly right, but somewhat roughly...

- Agricole means it is made from fresh (count in hours) cane juice. Stop.

- AOC is not meant as a garanty of quality for the taste, but is for the way rum is made, kind of strict quality control along the whole production process. All the agricole rums produced in Martinique are not granted an AOC.
Please forget (keep it for the US market - see Bourbon/Whiskey) any thought of protectionism...
Martinique is the only island to have earned an AOC so far, but on the sister island, Guadeloupe (and Marie-Galante), you have also agricole made the same way and sooner or later they will benefit of AOC, given they respect the "cahier des charges".
But rums from these islands will always keep their taste differences, as stated elsewhere, soil, kind of cane, etc., do matter.

OK, other islands make some rum the agricole way, Haiti, the Reunion and Maurice. Process for Réunion agricole is exactly the same as from her West Indies DOM sisters, they have no AOC as they produce both kinds of rums and do not start the process to get it (this is costly, time consuming and they don't bother to as all sells right away - see how hard it is to find Rivière du Mât - LOL).

On the other hand you can't compare a young rum (St James ambré) and a VSOP. They don't play in the same league. Exactly as any other rums from any other places. Who would compare a white Demerara and a 12 YO?

I'll end this (too) long post pointing a difference you may have overlooked.
Cocktails are very common in the US, quite a culture there and there's a lot of, maybe a new one everyday, mixing all kinds of rums and any other liquids.
Those who have been in FWI or France have surely noticed that except for the Ti punch (all day long, every where, always white rum, 40/50/55 or 60°), Daïquiri and Mai Tai in some places (and not before the afternoon), real cocktails are not in the French tradition... older rums (more than 3 years ) are intended for sipping, the way of a cognac or armagnac, the older the better, after a good meal.
Young colored (ambré) rums are an oddity to me, and I would be very embarrassed of what to deal with...
And IMHO Neisson is over the lot.
Thank you for clearing that up.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:28 AM   #23
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I drink Clement Canne Bleue (50%) in Ti-Punch : green lime zest, sugar and Canne Bleue.

Clement Canne Bleue ( is fresh and it smells like a flower.
If you prefer more stronger, drink with "Pere Labat" (59%).
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Old 08-14-2014, 03:45 PM   #24
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I haven't tried much Rhum Agricole. I have tried a Saint James and a La Mauny XO. Now its not that I dislike the taste but it is rather strange (bit like chewing grass!).

Now I've also tried a couple of Cachaca's (Ypioca and a Brasilian chain restaurants "own make" called Las Iguanas). I found these all to be very similar.

Now Rhum Agricole is a lot more expensive than "normal" rum. Tell me if I buy a £50 plus bottle of agricole does it still have that vegetal/grassy taste? Or with agricole do you really have to spend big to get a good one? If the expensive ones still taste grassy then it just isn't for me!

I'm looking at trying the Barbancourt 5 star (8 year old) but if its going to taste grassy I might just give it a miss. There seems to be a bit of dispute over whether this is a true agricole.

With so many rums to try I figure if I skip Agricole and Cachaca then I might be able to try more I like BUT I'd hate to be missing out just from trying a few "cheap" bottles of Agricole!
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The strongest rhum agricole is from Neisson L'Esprit bottled at 70% ABV. There were only 3000 liters bottled last year.
In the US, I highly recommend Neisson rhum blanc for a ti punch which is bottled at 50% ABV vs the 40% ABV at which Clement rhum blanc is bottled for the US market.
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I haven't tried much Rhum Agricole. I have tried a Saint James and a La Mauny XO. Now its not that I dislike the taste but it is rather strange (bit like chewing grass!).

Now I've also tried a couple of Cachaca's (Ypioca and a Brasilian chain restaurants "own make" called Las Iguanas). I found these all to be very similar.

Now Rhum Agricole is a lot more expensive than "normal" rum. Tell me if I buy a £50 plus bottle of agricole does it still have that vegetal/grassy taste? Or with agricole do you really have to spend big to get a good one? If the expensive ones still taste grassy then it just isn't for me!

I'm looking at trying the Barbancourt 5 star (8 year old) but if its going to taste grassy I might just give it a miss. There seems to be a bit of dispute over whether this is a true agricole.

With so many rums to try I figure if I skip Agricole and Cachaca then I might be able to try more I like BUT I'd hate to be missing out just from trying a few "cheap" bottles of Agricole!

You should try Rhum J.M 1994 Vintage. Its a great one for sure.
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:08 AM   #27
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You should try Rhum J.M 1994 Vintage. Its a great one for sure.
At over £150 a bottle I think I'll give that one a miss!
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:43 AM   #28
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Barbancourt 8 year old (5 star) doesn't have a "grassy" taste - neither does the 4 year old (3 star). Barbancourt rums are not Agricoles as they are made from sugar cane syrup and not sugar cane juice.
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