Rum Manhattan and other cocktails

[Hank Koestner]

I was trying to decide If I should enter my new thread here. Maybe we need a forum just for cocktail discussions. I purchased some Contreau today, and some sweet and dry vermouth. I would like to know what your favorite recipes are for using Contreau with rum, and for a Rum Manhatten. Also, a Sidecar recipe. Also, are there any Brandy or Cognac and rum drink recipes?(I am not sure this sounds good to me). When I try cocktails I always do to the Classic first, then try other variations. Also, what are the best quality Vermouths? I am trying to expand my horizons more onto the cocktail arena, as I am not a big fan of fruit based Tiki drinks unless it is a hot July afternoon by the ocean.....I consume most of my rum neat, with ice, or mixed with ginger, the Ti Punch and the Daquiri.

[RumBarPhilly]

For a good Rum Manhattan, I use:

3 oz Prichards Fine
1/2 oz Clement Creole Shrubb
1/2 oz Sweet Vermouth

[Edward Hamilton]

Vya vermouth is the best I've found and the one recommended by mixologists from San Francisco, Vya's made in CA, and New York.

When I get back from Jamaica, I hope to have the cocktail recipe section working and I'll add a cocktail forum. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Tiare]

Good idea with the cocktail forum, iґve been thinkin of that too. Its needed.

[Count Silvio]

I was trying to decide If I should enter my new thread here. Maybe we need a forum just for cocktail discussions. I purchased some Contreau today, and some sweet and dry vermouth. I would like to know what your favorite recipes are for using Contreau with rum, and for a Rum Manhatten. Also, a Sidecar recipe. Also, are there any Brandy or Cognac and rum drink recipes?(I am not sure this sounds good to me). When I try cocktails I always do to the Classic first, then try other variations. Also, what are the best quality Vermouths? I am trying to expand my horizons more onto the cocktail arena, as I am not a big fan of fruit based Tiki drinks unless it is a hot July afternoon by the ocean.....I consume most of my rum neat, with ice, or mixed with ginger, the Ti Punch and the Daquiri. Paulipbartender recently posted IPB recipe links to a thread at the Refined Vices cocktail forum (http://www.refinedvices.com/forum_/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=82) and as it just happens he has a recipe for Sidecar and a recipe for Manhattan that uses cognac and tons of other recipes.

Sidecar
40ml Cognac
20ml Orange Curacao
20ml lemon juice

Method: shake and strain
Glass: small martini
Garnish: optional sugar rim

Manhattan Island
50ml Hennessey Fine de Cognac
25ml Noilly Prat rouge
four dashes Angostura bitters
5ml sugar syrop
stir and strain into a cocktail glass
garnish with two cherries

Other interesting classic cocktail recipes. (http://www.refinedvices.com/forum_/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=83)

[Paulipbartender]

I've just sent Ed about 50-60 classic and contemporary rum recipes for the cocktail database.

With everyone's help we'll have a great section for all to reference soon. Happy mixing Jimbo.

[Hank Koestner]

These are great recipes. I will try to substitute rum for the Cognac!

[The Scribe]

Dood just posted an excellent article on his website rumdood.com entitled "Sidecar but with Brandy" on the subject of the "Between the Sheets," which seems to be what you are looking for in terms of a rum and brandy cocktail. He also lists the "Cuban Cocktail." A look on the outstanding cocktaildb.com reminds me of several other drinks. Of course there is the Boston Cooler, the Tom & Jerry, and, lest we leave it out, the Zombie which uses apricot brandy.
Cheers. - S

[Bahamian]

El Presidente!

one of my favourite aperitifs (itґs like trador vic said: "Cuban Presidente" was "the 'martini' of Cuba and, to me, a lot better than our own.")!
and it`s with vermouth AND contreau (or orange curaзao).

the the little cocktailbook i bought in cuba says:

1/2 ounce red orange curaзao (i replace it with contreau)
1/2 ounce sweet white vermouth
1 1/2 ounce light dry rum
slice of orange rind
(cherry)

stir all ingredients with ice, strain into a cocktailglas, aromatize with orange rind by twisting over the drink and placing it in the cocktail.

the dry version is with dry vermouth; the "dulce" is with a little less curaзao and 0,1 ounce of grenadine.

[lcclower]

2 rum/cachaca
1 triple sec/ cointreau
1 lime juice
ice, shake, garnish with a lime wedge.

Quite a fit of innovation here, it's a marguarita made with rum and renamed.
But I like it.

There is a real need for a rum drink named after the Jimmy Buffett tune "Cuban Crime of Passion", any ideas? lc

[Bahamian]

by the way - here is an image of an presidente that was prepared for me in the floridita bar in cuba. it was early in the evening, the bar tender not in a hurry and here obviously enjoyed mixing something else and not a daiquiri ;-)
i love the 3 anos for the el presidente but i prefer noilly prat as the vermouth , martini makes it a little sweet.

http://home.arcor.de/confalk/blogbilder/april08/P1040718.jpg

and as you can see in the picture - it's going to be stirred, not shaken ;-)