What did you drink last night?

[Mr Fjeld]

Feel free to post what rums you enjoyed yesterday. Myself I had the pleasure of enjoying the Mount Gay Extra Old. Really good:)

[Phil]

Coruba 25 YO. I'm currently working on some tasting notes for that one.

[Billy Bob]

Bermudez Anniversario. I finished the bottle yesterday and definetly buy it again. A very smooth, complex and affordable Rum Cheers

[bluewave6]

I had a little Barbancourt 15, Doorly's XO and Vizcaya (which is a new one for me...can't quite determine if I like it yet or now...has a very unique flavor...almost cinnamon like).

[Hank Koestner]

Neisson Rhum Agricole Eleve Sous Bois in a Ti Punch about 4pm,
Then St. James Hor's D'age after dinner, neat.

[bluewave6]

Me again...guess I have drinking problem :) Orocono (sp?) Aged white with lime while grilling and El Dorado 15 after dinner....so many rums to choose from...life is grand!!!!!

[Edward Hamilton]

Neisson Rhum Agricole Eleve Sous Bois in a Ti Punch about 4pm,
Then St. James Hor's D'age after dinner, neat.

I really like the nutty flavor of the Neisson ESB.

[Hank Koestner]

I really like the nutty flavor of the Neisson ESB.

As you can see, I am expressing my enjoyment of rhum agricole in my entries on the site today. The Neisson ESB is great neat, or with a little ice, without the cane syrup and lime. You are right, there is a nice nutty flavor to this rhum. I am beginning to see that there are more subtle variances of flavor with rhum agricole. What do you think of La Favorite 8 ANS? I was hoping to find this down in the Islands.

[The Rum Ambassador]

Was drinking and still drinking XM Royal 10 years old from Guyana. Perfection in a bottle.HMMMMM

[DemeraraDrinker]

Had a Zombie using Don the Beachcomber's recipe. He uses three rums:

Lemon Hart 151
White Puerto Rican
Gold Puerto Rican

I used Lemon Hart, and for the white and the gold, I broke the rule and used Appleton White and Barbancourt 8 Year.

[Aaron Wolin]

Yesterday: La Favorite 'Ti punch, with a splash of 10 Cane mixed in.
Now: Flor de Cana neat

Feel free to post what rums you enjoyed yesterday. Myself I had the pleasure of enjoying the Mount Gay Extra Old. Really good:)

Haven't had Mount Gay in a while. The Extra Old tastes almost like a bourbon. Really good indeed :).

[Mr Fjeld]

Yesterday: La Favorite 'Ti punch, with a splash of 10 Cane mixed in.
Now: Flor de Cana neat



Haven't had Mount Gay in a while. The Extra Old tastes almost like a bourbon. Really good indeed :).
Spot on! The first thought that hit me when I tasted it the first time was exactly the same; here's rum which had been impregnated with the cask it's been in. Not a problem as I love a good bourbon too, but I think of the Mt.Gay Extra Old as having a slightly "sour" quality one only finds in rum. Love it!

[knight of the rum table]

Flor de Cana 7 year grand reserve. Not my favorite by any means but a decent rum for the price. Over ice w/ a half fresh sqeezed lime, seltzer water and a small splash of diet pepsi.

[Dood]

I had a Dark and Stormy with Flor de Cana Centario 18.

I'm becoming more and more of a fan of the Flor rum...good, smooth taste with a good flavoring of caramel.

Bottle's almost empty though...then it's back to the Appleton Estate V/X (until I can find a store with the Reserve to try out).

[Aaron Wolin]

Recently made myself a Dark and Stormy with Flor de Cana 12 yr and Reed's Ginger Brew. Delicious.

Currently drinking a Tiger's Milk with Mount Gay Eclipse. It's a very comfortable drink.

[Mr Fjeld]

I had a glass of the soon to be empty Mount Gay Extra Old and Angostura 1824. The latter one is good also but a little strange; Wine gum, rubbery and a little smoky?

[Scottes]

I finally got around to trying the Flor De Cana 21 that I got a month ago. Very nice stuff.

[Troy]

A bit of Pyrat and some 10 Cane. I also sampled several spiced concoctions I have in Mason jars.

[knight of the rum table]

Zacapa 15 Yr and El Dorado 12 Yr.

[Dood]

I discovered that my local English pub has Appleton Estate V/X, so I had that with a splash of ginger ale (although my taste buds told me it was a sprite/coke mix instead of real ginger ale). I was thrilled to find a bar nearby with rums other than Bacardi/Capt/Malibu.

[Rumfellow]

Last night proved to be a most enjoyable rum session. We started with Pusser's Navy Rum (which we mixed with a bit of water to help open up the flavor) before progressing into the selacious bliss of two Guatemalan beauties: Zaya Gran Reserva 12 year and Ron Zacapa Centenario 23.

Between drams, several rum-appropriate cheeses were served including Arina Goat Gouda and a cave aged Gruyere.

[Mr Fjeld]

Last night I had the pleasure of opening the El Dorado 15. I've tasted it once before but I find most things usually taste better at home and so also this time. Oh boy this is good! I think it's my favourite so far. And there's something going on in the taste that I cannot put my finger on but it makes it even more exciting. I certainly don't regret buying this one and I wonder if I should pick up the 12 and the 21 in Prague later this summer.

[Mr Fjeld]

Yesterday I once again had an El Dorado 15. Wow, it's really good!

[Edward Hamilton]

I was hoping to find this down in the Islands.

The only place you'll find the La Favorite 8 Ans is in Martinique and you may have to go to the distillery to find it.

[Edward Hamilton]

Last night I had the pleasure of opening the El Dorado 15. I've tasted it once before but I find most things usually taste better at home and so also this time. Oh boy this is good! I think it's my favourite so far. And there's something going on in the taste that I cannot put my finger on but it makes it even more exciting. I certainly don't regret buying this one and I wonder if I should pick up the 12 and the 21 in Prague later this summer.

If the El Dorado 12 and 21 are available in Prague I would certainly consider adding them to your rum shelf. The 12 is a little lighter than the 15, which is my favorite the El Dorado lineup. The 21 is a little heavier than the 15 but also a very nice rum. Both the 12 and 21 blends have changed over the last 6 years, though the 15 has remained essentially unchanged, but I am very satisfied with both of those bottlings.

[Edward Hamilton]

Last night I had the pleasure of opening the El Dorado 15. I've tasted it once before but I find most things usually taste better at home and so also this time. Oh boy this is good! I think it's my favourite so far. And there's something going on in the taste that I cannot put my finger on but it makes it even more exciting. I certainly don't regret buying this one and I wonder if I should pick up the 12 and the 21 in Prague later this summer.

If the El Dorado 12 and 21 are available in Prague I would certainly consider adding them to your rum shelf. The 12 is a little lighter than the 15, which is my favorite sipping rum of the El Dorado lineup. The 21 is a little heavier than the 15 but also a very nice rum. Both the 12 and 21 blends have changed over the last 6 years, while the 15 has remained essentially unchanged.

[Mr Fjeld]

If the El Dorado 12 and 21 are available in Prague I would certainly consider adding them to your rum shelf. The 12 is a little lighter than the 15, which is my favorite sipping rum of the El Dorado lineup. The 21 is a little heavier than the 15 but also a very nice rum. Both the 12 and 21 blends have changed over the last 6 years, while the 15 has remained essentially unchanged.
Thanks for your advice Ed - I'll go for both the 12 and the 21. Funny thing is that I haven't bought any single malts lately , only rum........ Think I'm about to fall in love with this stuff :)

Cheers!
Christian

[The Rum Ambassador]

Richard Wood, bar manager of La Floridita in London, and myself decided to sip through some rums to discover and remind ourselves of how great the category is. We sipped Caribbean reserve vintage cask from Venezulea 8 year old, Ron Centenario XX from Costa rica, English harbour 5 yr old, Bacardi's Havana Club, XM 5 yr old from Guyana, Khurkri dark rum, a 28 yr old Demerera bottled in Scotland at 68.2% alc by vol,Canne Brule Banana overproof rum, Borgoe '82 from Surinam, Baquba Trinidadian rum bottled in Holland ( in Aluminium), Abuelo aged and Prichards fine rum. some of them we tried at least twice and others....well....?

[IPBmac]

Sounds like lunch time at our place when Reedo's left alone in the bar......

:D

[Bamber]

Hi all,

Last night had some Barbancourt Five Star and compared it against some Ron Zacapa 23yo. First taste of the Barbancourt - very good, flavourful stuff.

[Mr Fjeld]

Hi Bamber, nice to see you here:)

I just poured my first ruhm agricole ever - Trois Rivieres 1996, and in my opinion a very good rum! There's something intriguing in the nose; almost minty. And the taste.........oh so very good!

In my world it's up there with the El Dorado 15 which is my favourite so far.
:)
Edit/added: some notes on the Trois Rivieres: Minty/peppermint, banana, camphor (as in a danish sweet called "King of Denmark) and something I think would be what everyone calls "vegetal". I'm also reminded of carrot cake but I could be stretching it a bit.

I also had a couple of El Dorado 15 and when the glass was empty there was a strong scent of pipe tobacco! Very nice!

[Scottes]

I grabbed my bottle of Kaniche Martinique for a couple small glasses tonight. I had this a couple years ago, and my memories were fond, and it struck the mood I had tonight. I am glad it did - I really enjoyed this rum.

[Dood]

Appleton Estate V/X with a splash of ginger.

[knight of the rum table]

Zaya Gran Reserve. Very fine. It seems to me the Central and South America seem to produce some of the finest rums.

[Mr Fjeld]

Appleton Estate V/X with a splash of ginger.

Appleton Estate rums are on my "have to try-list" . Hopefully I'll manage to find something when traveling this summer. Is there an expression I should particularly look for?

Had a couple of lovely single malts and two fantastic rums; El Dorado 15 and Trois Riveres 1996. Can it get any better?

[Hank Koestner]

I am a happy man today. I walked into a new wine and spirit super store today, and lo and behold, they had Doorly's XO and Foursquare spiced.
I have been trying to find Doorly's for months.
The Foursquare before dinner, then, after dinner, the first glass of Doorly's solo, the second glass with a fine cigar. Tonight, life is good in Orlando, Florida.

[Scottes]

...they had Doorly's XO and Foursquare spiced.
Two nice choices there, for sure. I was amazed by the Foursquare - it's very good, but what was so amazing is that it so different from Captain Morgan and Sailor Jerry, and works so darn well.

I got my Doorly's XO in the close-out section of a local store. $17. It was worth it. :cool:

[Bamber]

Hi Bamber, nice to see you here:)

You too :)

Had some more of the Barbancourt last night. Got my sights set on some Cadenhead's stuff next time I'm in London ....

[DemeraraDrinker]

Last night I had the pleasure of opening the El Dorado 15. I've tasted it once before but I find most things usually taste better at home and so also this time. Oh boy this is good! I think it's my favourite so far. And there's something going on in the taste that I cannot put my finger on but it makes it even more exciting. I certainly don't regret buying this one and I wonder if I should pick up the 12 and the 21 in Prague later this summer.

That something going on...is it smoke/tar/leather? Demerara rums seems to have these kind of rustic flavors.

[Mr Fjeld]

That something going on...is it smoke/tar/leather? Demerara rums seems to have these kind of rustic flavors.

That could very well be Demeraradrinker! I'll have to keep that in a weeks time when I try it again. It certainly is a good rum though - maybe even more intriguing than others if it presents something in the finish one cannot quite make out?

[Troy]

Enjoying Appleton Estate v/x in a mojito right now. Mixed up light on the cane juice, mint, lime and water (San Pelligrino).

[Hank Koestner]

A very long measure of this Rhum agricole tonight on my porch, neat.
This rhum is so good, it defies description. I had the second glass with a Cusano Grand Cuvee Lancero, a rare and excellent full bodied cigar. The two were perfect together.

[Dood]

I finished off my bottle of as-of-yet unidentified rum that we brought back from Tahiti. It came in a bottle shaped like a ship, but no labels. It wasn't fantastic, but it was good enough for a few drinks.

Had a few glasses of that, simple-syrup, and soda. Mmmmm.

[Grouchowan]

Today was a horrible start to my Memorial Day weekend: so-so weather bordering on cold and wet,skirmishes with the spouse, one of the cats broke a piece of expensive pottery (made especially for aforementioned spouse), one of the dogs ate a chunk of expensive, very good - well, so we were told - artisan cheese (my fault), the Irish rugby team lost a heart breaker to Argentina, the English rugby team was destroyed by the Springboks, and my beloved Minnesota Twins lost in 13 innings...
To top off my day, the Matusalem rum I save for such occasions was no more. Liquor stores in Minnesota are closed on Sunday, so I am drinking Mount Gay Barbados Sugar Cane Rum. Not a bad, rum, just not the much anticipated Matusalem...
Enough whining from me. I enjoy this forum a great deal and thank you all for your contributions. Thanks to you all, I have a terrific list of rum to try and look forward to paydays and weekends to indulge my new found passion!
P.S. I swear all the 'bad' things actually happened today.
P.P.S. I know if this is as bad as a day gets I'm pretty damned lucky.

[Scottes]

We opened up camp for the season, and I got together with a friend (Phil) who's also into rums (thanks mostly to my tutelage), and we ended up sampling 4 very different rums:

Foursquare Spiced
Very nice, and *so* unlike Captain Morgan which Phil used to drink before I changed his evil ways. This was Phil's favorite of the night.

Prichard's Fine Rum
I like this rum, though it's expensive for what you get, but Phil didn't seem to care for it. He felt there was something "odd going on" but went so far as to compliment it by saying it was smooth. That was the best he could do.

Flor de Caña 21
This was very nice, again. Tasty stuff, and we both enoyed it. But I had to put it away after one shot since Phil might enjoy it too much.

Pyrat XO
Wow, did this taste like oranges! I don't remember this rum being so very orangey - though I haven't had it in over a year, so my memory might be faulty. I have heard rumours about the formula changing...


When I got to the camper I found 4 bottles that I had left last year: partial bottles of Pyrat XO and Appleton Estates V/X, as well as unopened bottles of Pyrat Blanco and one of the Plantation rums (possibly Venezuela, possibly `91 or `92).

I also stopped at a liquor store on the way home and got a bottle each of Clement Creole Shrubb (more orange! I love orange.), English Harbor 5-year-old, Ron Botran Anejo, and I scored a bottle of Appleton Estate 21-year-old for $62.

[knight of the rum table]

I had some more Angostura 1919. The vanilla taste in this rum is a little too overpowering for me so I blend it with some Ron Centenario Commerativo to level it out some and it is quite nice.

[Mr Fjeld]

I had some more Angostura 1919. The vanilla taste in this rum is a little too overpowering for me so I blend it with some Ron Centenario Commerativo to level it out some and it is quite nice.
Sounds like a nice way to treat yourself :)
I have the 1824 which I think is a little "weird" but still quite enjoyable. For some reason it leaves me with the impression of wine gum?

Yesterday I had a few single malts but the star of the show was a rum. The Trois Rivieres 1996 is fabulous! Think I'll try some more ruhm agricoles in the future.

Cheers!
Christian

[Mr Fjeld]

Large pour of El Dorado 15. This is a nice rum!

[Dood]

Last night I endured my first experiment in making my own infusions (sort of).

We had some spice that we brought back from our honeymoon that sat far too long and became something akin to Jaegermeister in flavor, but twice as harsh. A shot of this stuff would literally render you unable to taste ANYTHING for a good 2-3 minutes.

I had been told that I might try that as some of the spice for a blend, but obviously in a very small amount. Well I used too much obviously cause this blend was still undrinkable...even mixed with a strong-flavored soda like Pepsi Jazz Caramel you could taste the liquorice flavor to which the original spice had devolved.

I think my next attempt may not involve more than a shot or two of the spice and see if any of it is salvageable. I'm also thinking I may need a stronger base than the Appleton White, go for more of a blend than an infusion if you will.

[Troy]

So far I've found that the infusions I've done with spices take a lot less spice than I expected. I've found that putting a fresh sliced banana in an Appleton or a two year Cruzan for a day has been a huge hit with anyone I've had taste it. Even the rum and coke drinkers love the taste of the fresh banana in a rum and coke.

[Scottes]

I finally cracked the bottle of Appleton Estate 21-year-old. Extremely nice stuff, though I do like a more complex rum. But I certainly have no complaints about this stuff. Quite sippable.

[Hank Koestner]

I sipped some of this neat last night. I was pleasantly suprised, as I was not expecting this rum to be as rich as it was. As Ed has said, it does remind one of Brugal Extra Viejo, but does not have the earthiness of the Brugal rums.
I am now curious to taste the Ron Abuelo 7 anos. This rum was also a good pairing with a Ashton Virgin Sungrown torpedo. This is a very rich cigar, and the rum enhanced the cocoa and espresso flavors in the cigar, while maintaining its own flavor.

[Scottes]

I just tried the Clйment Crйole Shrubb. I was expecting a rum, but it's far closer to an orange liqueur like Cointreau. Very good, but not a rum in my opinion.

[The Rum Ambassador]

I just tried the Clйment Crйole Shrubb. I was expecting a rum, but it's far closer to an orange liqueur like Cointreau. Very good, but not a rum in my opinion.
Creole Shrubb is an excellent Rhum liqueur, created with the traditional Christmas Shrubb flavours in mind, of dried peels of oranges and tangerines, sugar cane syrup, spice and white rum. The guys from Clemente were trying to create an after dinner drink like Grand Marnier when they blended it. It great as a sweetening agent in Daiquiris and my favourite drink...Rum Old fashions. HMMMM

[Scottes]

I'd say that they did an excellent job. Rum Old Fashioned.... Hmmm.... What's your favorite rum for this?

[angelsword]

Last night I did a tasting with:
Saint James Hors D'age
Matusalem Gran Reserva 15yr
Gosling's Family Reserve Old Rum
Barbancourt Estate Reserve 15 yr

All were good but I came away very impressed with the St. James as my overall pick.

[knight of the rum table]

Barrique Aged Origine Amber Rum in a Mojito w/ a splash of mango nectar. Also some Ron Centernario XX Anos neat.

[angelsword]

My star rating of last night's grouping by number of stars:
5*Angostura 1824-Must buy more
3.5*Sea Wynde-Above the herd
3*Cartavio 1929 12 yr-top of the herd
2*Myer's Legend-off
1*Creole Shrubb-fanta orange soda plus extra sugar and alcohol

[Seahound]

Pyrat XO with a tiny bit of water. I didn't really like this one when I first tried it, but it's growing on me. Plus the only other bottle I have in the house at the moment is my Santa Teresa 1796, and I'm saving that one.

[Edward Hamilton]

my favourite drink...Rum Old fashions. HMMMM

Rum Old Fashions and Rum Manhattans are two of my favorite non-traditional rum drinks. But don't make mine with any run of the mill rum, it has to be an aged rum and not just a dark, wanna-be aged rum.

[The Rum Ambassador]

Rum Old Fashions and Rum Manhattans are two of my favorite non-traditional rum drinks. But don't make mine with any run of the mill rum, it has to be an aged rum and not just a dark, wanna-be aged rum.

LOL. Too true, I'll raise my glass to that, ED :)

[robercw]

I finished off a bottle of Cruzan Single Barrel over ice. I'm going to have to replace it pretty soon though. My rum intake goes way up during the summer months.

[Edward Hamilton]

If you like Cruzan Single Barrel, you owe it to yourself to try their Estate Diamond which has a slightly heavier body and character and isn't as sweet as the more expensive Single Barrel.

[Scottes]

Quaffed some Pyrat Pistol last night - more than I expected. It's a sweet rum and not for everyone - it's close to the Pyrat XO so you could make a judgment call based on your like/dislike of the XO.

But I enjoyed it quite a bit.

[robercw]

If you like Cruzan Single Barrel, you owe it to yourself to try their Estate Diamond which has a slightly heavier body and character and isn't as sweet as the more expensive Single Barrel.

Thanks for the tip Ed. I'm currently in the process of emptying all of my partial bottles in anticipation of my yearly Florida vacation. I find the rum selection a lot better near the beach than I do here in Tennessee, so I always restock when I'm there. I'll add the Estate Diamond to the list.

[schnerg]

havana club with some lime juice and cane syrup.

[Phil]

13YO Jamaican Rum 66,2% (Hampden Estate distillery bottled by Cadenhead's)

This is the best Rum I've ever tried. Their is just nothing that can reach this. Not even the always top-ranked Zacapa.
Cask Strength is just another level. You won't taste anything else for the rest of the evening. This rum just stays in your mouth for hours.

[Edward Hamilton]

Cadenhead bottles some amazing rums, but some of their rums far way short of the mark. There used to be a 30 year old cask strength which really captured the essence of fine sipping rum. I drank it with a little water since it was 146 proof. I'm not hung up on the age of the spirit as it really depends on where the rum was aged. When aged in a cool climate as the Zacapa Centenario, which is aged high in the mountains of Guatemala or Cadenhead rums which may be aged in the UK, the maturation process proceeds a lot slower than it does at sea level on a Caribbean island.

I'm looking forward to some of the new Cadenhead releases, which I'm told are going to be better than ever, but then I've never been told that a new release is going to be of lesser quality than a previous one.

[bluewave6]

Last night I tried for the first time English Harbor 5yr and Barcelo Imperial. Both were excellent, but the Barcelo was my favorite. I really enjoy DR rums (barcelo and brugal) except for the Viczaya, which I am not too sure of yet...has a strong cinnamon taste to it. I have a friend going to the DR next month and he is bringing me back some of the Brugal Extra Anejo which I hear is pretty good.

[Mr Fjeld]

Had an El Dorado 15 again last night. Good as ever.

[angelsword]

Tried One Barrel last night. Very interesting butterscotch flavor.

[Troy]

I've been meaning to give that a try sometime soon. Did you like it?

[angelsword]

I've been meaning to give that a try sometime soon. Did you like it?

Unusual, very pleasant, long finish, but not one that I will always keep on my shelf.

[Hank Koestner]

I had not had Mount Gay Extra Old in awhile, so enjoyed a measure last night, neat. I had forgotten how good this rum is, rich, complex and full of flavor. I am not a fan of strong oak or wood flavors, but I enjoy a wood note when it balances with the rest of the rum. This rum hits the mark.
It also matches well with a good cigar. I smoked a Graycliff Crystal with
the second pour, and it was a great marriage.


I also have One Barrel. The butterscotch description is perfect. It is unusual,
and when I am in the mood for a rum like this, I find it quite good. it seems a bit sweet at first taste, but I let it rest in the glass for a few minutes, and that seems to soften that a little.

[Edward Hamilton]

According to the distiller, One Barrel is a flavored rum which accounts for the butterscotch flavor. While I don't want to drink it everyday, I do enjoy it mixed in cocktails and it is a good value.

[angelsword]

According to the distiller, One Barrel is a flavored rum which accounts for the butterscotch flavor. While I don't want to drink it everyday, I do enjoy it mixed in cocktails and it is a good value.
I was wondering if the flavor had been achieved through secondary flavoring or was through the cracking of the sugars. I had to study the origins of butterscotch a bit to even get to the question.

[Scottes]

Last night my friend Phil and I sat back and sampled several outstanding rums.

We started with Gosling's Family Reserve - heavy, dark. Very good but I'm not such a fan of dark rums like this.

Next came Appleton 21-year-old. Excellent stuff, quite complex, but the strongest burn of the bunch.

Then Santa Teresa 1796 - excellent, quite excellent. Definitely in the top rums I've ever had.

We cracked the Zaya Gran Reserva next - oh, this is beautiful stuff. I have had it before, and I don't remember it being this good.

The Zaya reminded us both of the Ron Zacapa 23, so Phil grabbed his bottle from the fridge. Also fantastic, as usual.

But we couldn't decide between the Zaya or the Ron Zacapa, so we went back and forth between the two several times, taking little sips, trying to decide which was better. After 6 or 8 little samples over time, neither of us could decide which was better. The Zacapa is a little lighter and sweeter, the Zaya a bit heavier and richer. Both are absolutely fantastic.

[Edward Hamilton]

It's not surprising that you like both Zaya and Zacapa since they are both born at the same distillery. I find more coffee and chocolate flavors in Zaya along with a more viscous body
.

[Scottes]

Good description for the Zaya. I was really surprised by how so very similar they are. There's very little reason to have them both on the shelf... though I probably will.

[angelsword]

It's not surprising that you like both Zaya and Zacapa since they are both born at the same distillery. I find more coffee and chocolate flavors in Zaya along with a more viscous body
.
Of the two, I definately prefer the Zaya. The Zaca's sweetness is just too much for me. But even the Zaya is a bit too sweet, but nothing like the Zaca. I'm just not a sweet guy. Dark and bitter fit me better.

[Mr Fjeld]

Enjoyed a couple of Caol Ila 12yo earlier and I'm now into my second largish pour of Trois Rivieres 1996. This is a fantastic rum - maybe the best I've had so far! It seems to have a lot to offer both in taste and flavour and they're fairly identical: lots of camphor, peppermint, carrot cake and oak. Wow!

[angelsword]

Last night I was enjoying El Dorado 15. That was the benchmark against which I was playing during the blending of one of my own rums. I found it a very strong standard!

[Dood]

Spent yesterday at the beach in San Diego...cleaned out a bottle of Sailor Jerry drinking Cuba Libre's and some other assorted cocktails.

After we retired back to the condo, we started in on mojitos made with Appleton Estate V/X.

[bluewave6]

Last night I tried few different rums I recently ordered:

Botran Solera: Very very nice
Barcelo Imperial: very nice
Baurique (sp?): Picked this one up at an Albertson's when I was in SoCal last week. It is a blend of several different rums that are blended in the Netherlands. The base is a 10yr Barbados rum which is very nice

Chauffe Coeur Blanc: I did not like this one at all!! It smelled just like Pitu Cachaca and I am quessing not meant to be sipped based on the taste. Very harsh. I guess I will have to find a recipe to mix this with.

[Scottes]

I finally tried the Khukri Coronation rum, the one in the finally bottle shaped like a Khukri knife. In a word, it was outstanding. A little sweet, more than smooth enough, and definitely complex.

http://scottesrum.com/2007/07/14/khukri-coronation/

[Mr Fjeld]

Yesterday I had the pleasure of enjoying Trois Rivieres 1996 and El Dorado 15. There's a lovely strong smell of moist pipe tobacco left in the glass after the El Dorado.

[Mr Fjeld]

Hm, a returning theme: Trois Rivieres 1996. It has a taste to die for and the finish is remarkably long. Stays in the mouth for ages.

[Matusalem]

Chauffe Coeur Blanc: I did not like this one at all!! It smelled just like Pitu Cachaca and I am quessing not meant to be sipped based on the taste. Very harsh. I guess I will have to find a recipe to mix this with.I thought this one was decent for what it is.

Generalization and my own taste, of course, but agricultural Rhum (to me) tastes sort of a middle ground between molases based rums and pure sugar cane cachacas - all to say it does not surprise me you associated the nose of this spirit with a cachaca.

Again the description was my own generalizations not meant to be applied to each and every iteration, so please go lightly on my temple with the steel toe boots (those of you that think or feel differently). ;)

[Mr Fjeld]

El Dorado 15. Lovely as ever!
Going to Prague this weekend and discovered a shop which sells Varadero from Cuba, Ocumare from Venezuela, Malteco from Guatemala and Malecon from Panama - so my question is this: Have anyone tried any of them and are they any good?

[Phil]

Malteco and Malecon are both very nice. I have the 10YO Malteco and the 21 YO Malecon. But all the others should also be fine.

Varadero isn't worth the money.

[Edward Hamilton]

I had Ocumare in a bottle with a gecko in the design about 6 years ago and wasn't impressed but since that time I've been told by a Florida importer that the rum has been improved and that it is much better but apparently the bottle hasn't changed.

[Mr Fjeld]

Thanks guys. I just hope they have something left when I arrive. They probably do but as someone who's new to rum it's hard to know if I should go for the old or the slightly younger ones? Anyway, I'll let you know what I bought when I come back.

[Berbician]

I tried the Pyrat XO, for the first time, earlier today and was very impressed. Extremely smooth and the "orange flavour" that I had heard so much about is not overwhelming by any means. However, at Ј45 a bottle, it is very much a luxury.

[Dood]

Last night my in-laws gave me my birthday present a week early, as they're off for a Hawaiian cruise: a bottle of Matusalem 15 Year Old.

Sat down with it last night and sipped it neat and then with a cube of ice. Very nice.

[Mr Fjeld]

In the glass right now is the Trois Rivieres 1996 - so far my favourite rum! I came back from Prague today and brought a couple of rums and a few whiskies. From what I've heard here I think I made a good decision when I bought Appleton Extra 12yo and Ron Zacapa Centenario.

[angelsword]

In the glass right now is the Trois Rivieres 1996 - so far my favourite rum! I came back from Prague today and brought a couple of rums and a few whiskies. From what I've heard here I think I made a good decision when I bought Appleton Extra 12yo and Ron Zacapa Centenario.

One of my employees gave me a bottle of Appleton Extra. She picked in up in Jamaica but didn't care for the oakiness. Lucky me. I'll keep it on my shelf.

I'll have to look for Trois Rivieres.

[angelsword]

Last night my in-laws gave me my birthday present a week early, as they're off for a Hawaiian cruise: a bottle of Matusalem 15 Year Old.


At a rum tasting party held at the local Cuba Libre bar, where about 80 rums were being presented, Matusalem 15 and Flor de Cana 12 were easily my favorites.

[Milicent]

I'm still new to this wonderful world of rums, which means I have the pleasure of discovering old favorites for the first time. I am currently enjoying Ron Pampero Anniversario. Thumbs up.

I also picked up a bottle of Appleton Estate V/X at the recommendation of a friend. I get the full Jamaican flavor profile but don't see this being a favorite. Still, it wasn't bad and I can see it working well in certain drinks.

Speaking of mixed drinks, I found a great (cheap) place for Flor de Cana's 4-year olds. For the price ($11 for the Extra Dry and Gold), they seem to be great choices. Thoughts?

[Edward Hamilton]

Appleton V/X is probably the best value in their portfolio and though I don't drink a lot of it straight, when I'm looking for the Jamaican rum profile, which Appleton has defined, I enjoy it mixed. But if I'm in a bar and that is the best rum on the bar, I'll sip it with a little tonic and lime or on the rocks if I'm only going to have one.

[Berbician]

I tried the Foursquare Spiced, for the first time in a long while, a few weeks ago and was slightly disappointed. One of the spices (aniseed I think) seems to be more prominent than the others (cinnamon, nutmeg I'm guessing) and overpowers them.

I also tried the Clement Creole Shrubb recently - overwhelmingly sweet but there's nothing wrong with that from time to time.

[Mr Fjeld]

One of my employees gave me a bottle of Appleton Extra. She picked in up in Jamaica but didn't care for the oakiness. Lucky me. I'll keep it on my shelf.

Hi Angelsword! Wow, that's lucky! Let's hope she continues shopping like that :D



I'll have to look for Trois Rivieres.
It's my first rhum agricole and certainly not the last. I had another glass of this beauty yesterday and I found it lovely as ever; peppermint, ripe banana and carrot cake. I hope you find it and that you'll like it too!

[Hank Koestner]

I was able to procure a bottle of this On St. Barths, and I can see why you love it. I enjoyed a measure last night, and it is a beautiful expression of Rhum Agricole. It has a very rich consistency, complex, it melts in your mouth.:D

[angelsword]

Hi Angelsword! Wow, that's lucky! Let's hope she continues shopping like that :D

She didn't come out that poorly. I gave her a bottle of my Dark Chocolate Rum

[Scottes]

Dark Chocolate Rum
You're killing me with these flavors you make! I'm drooling too much for my own good.

[Dood]

She didn't come out that poorly. I gave her a bottle of my Dark Chocolate Rum

OK, now my wife, who was looking over my shoulder while I read your post, wants to know how one makes Dark Chocolate Rum...apparently my spiced vanilla experiment doesn't seem as cool anymore.

[angelsword]

OK, now my wife, who was looking over my shoulder while I read your post, wants to know how one makes Dark Chocolate Rum...apparently my spiced vanilla experiment doesn't seem as cool anymore.

You don't really expect me to give away that kind of professional recipe do you? All I am willing to say is that it is a multiphase process beginning with organic raw cacao.

[Dood]

You don't really expect me to give away that kind of professional recipe do you? All I am willing to say is that it is a multiphase process beginning with organic raw cacao.

Not at all...more failing to whimsically express the ravenous interest in such a spirit from the woman who happened to be sitting next to me on the couch. ;)

[angelsword]

Not at all...more failing to whimsically express the ravenous interest in such a spirit from the woman who happened to be sitting next to me on the couch. ;)

If you can find a bottle of something good that I don't have in my collection we might could swing a trade. :D

[bluewave6]

Last night I had Pompero and Ron Abuelo 5yr.....both really nice rums, but I preferred the Pompero a bit more....something about the rums from Venezuela that I really like...they all seem to have a very distinct flavor. I just ordered a bottle of the 7yr Abuelo and can't wait to compare it to the 5yr.

[Roger]

Had some English Harbour Aged (5 year old). Great stuff. I look forward to their release of their new 10 year old and 25 year old in October!

Roger

[Hank Koestner]

Hello Roger,
I also Like the English Harbor 5. If you are aware of a means by which I could purchase the 10 and 25 in October, could you let us know? Thanks.

[Seahound]

Wife just got back from a trip with a bottle of Zaya Gran Reserva. Wow, that's a great rum. It might just be the best I've tried so far.

[Scottes]

Last Saturday I tried the El Dorado 15- and 21-year-olds. First time for a demerara neat, and I enjoyed the heck out of both of them. Wow, what a lot of flavor!

I also had the Montecristo 12-year-old for the first time in 2+ years. Quite excellent, though I was surprised by the amount of burn, especially when considering 2 other old Guatemalan rums, Zacapa and Zaya.

[Count Silvio]

What would you say are the differences between the 15 year old and the 21 year old El Dorado? I have the 15 year old one and I am not sure if the 21 is worth the extra money. Over here the 15yo is Ђ41 and the 21yo is Ђ64,90 ($55.6 and $88). Ovepriced, I know.

[Scottes]

I paid $33 and $75 respectively. I do not think the 21 is worth the extra money. It's very nice, a little bit smoother and some more complexity, but not worth more than twice the price.

In fact my friend liked the 15 better than the 21, while I liked the 21 a bit more for the extra smoothness (note that the 15 is already extremely smooth, so it's not a big difference). I'd take either one, happily, at any time.

This is not a concentrated comparisons, though - just a comparison-while-drinking.

[Matusalem]

Scottes,

Time for a road trip maybe?

Quiet as it's kept, about 3-4 months ago, (for about a week) they had the 21 year old for $49.99. I'm convinced that was a mistake and they meant to mark it from $69.99 to $59.99. Anyway, if it was a mistake, that twasn't my fault - LOL!

http://www.shoppersvineyard.com/search.asp?s=el+dorado

This "sale" has to be about 5 months continuos now.

p.s. last I experienced, you need to get about 3 bottles or more combined to really come out roses from shopping there via delivery. It also doesn't make much sense (unless getting large quantities) to order anything that costs under about $20 - given delivery fees. Remember, don't tell anyone else about this or that place!!
;)

[Scottes]

Those are some nice prices. But I'd still buy the 15 locally, and save the extra gas money. :-)

[Mr Fjeld]

Started the evening with a belgian style wheat beer from a norwegian micro brewery called Nøgne Ø. Then had a Laphroaig Quarter Cask and now a Trois Rivieres 1996. Off to bed after that - has been a particularly busy week at work and I'm knackered!

[bluewave6]

I had a bit of Ron Ocumare Anejo last night...this is probably one of the best "sleeper" rums out there. I find I have a preference for rums from Venezuela and have quite few different ones. The other night I did a blind tasting with the Venzuelan rums with my wife and a few friends....in the mix were Santa Theresa Solera and Grand Reserve, Diplomatico Reserve Especiale, Pampero Anniversary and Ron Ocumare Anejo....2 out of the 3 peopel picked the Ron Ocumare Anejo as there favorite...they felt it had more "flavors" and was a bit more smooth that the other offerings...the best part is Ron Ocumare Anejo runs about $12-14 a bottle.....If you have a chance give this one a try....you maybe surprised....

[Edward Hamilton]

About 8 years ago I had some Ocumare from Venezuela when it was being launched and was very disappointed with it. Since then, I've been told that it has been reformulated and that, "It is better than ever." While that wouldn't be hard to beat, I'm happy to hear the new blend is good.

[Milicent]

I finally tried an agricole, St. James Hors D'Age. I knew it would be different from the other rums I've had, but I was surprised by howdifferent it really is. The first glass was consumed by a taste I can't articulate and a nagging question of whether I would ever like this. The second glass enabled me to get past the unidentifiable taste and on to other flavors. The third and final glass left me thinking this is an interesting rum and one I look forward to trying more of.

[Scottes]

You may have picked an extreme for your first taste of an agricole.

I found the Hors D'Age to be a bit tough to get used to at first. I found the St. James Ambre to be more to my liking. I considered the Clement VSOP to be even more similar to a molasses-based rum, but still with enough differences to know that you're drinking an agricole. And then when I tried the Clement Premiere Canne, a very young white, I was blown away with the difference between an agricole and a molasses rum. THAT was a very different experience, but by this point I was close to knowing what to expect.

[Hank Koestner]

Hello Milicent,
as it is shown by my entries, I am a big fan of this type of rhum. Scottes may be correct, St. James Hor's d' Age might have been an intense introduction.
It is hard to find a large selection here in the states, that is why when I travel I return with as much as I can carry. I am not sure what is available to you, but may I suggest Neisson Reserve or La Favorite. I think you may be able to find them on line. Clement makes wonderful aged rums, and you may like the VSOP, which seems available in most places. There are many variations of flavor with Rhum Agricole, from distiller to distiller. They are more like Cognac or Armangnac, or even aged whiskeys, but with rum flavors and characteristics. ( At least to my taste).:o

[Milicent]

Good to hear that the Hors D'Age was an intense introduction. I seem to have a touch when it comes to tasting new spirits. My first ever scotch was an Islay, and I was blown away by the amount of chewing I had to do to get through the smoke. I haven't seen the Neisson or La Favorite locally, but I do know where to order them online.

[angelsword]

Last night I enjoyed Pussers much more than I thought I would. :D I'm on the road for the next couple of months and don't have access to my usual selection. :( :(

[CaboBill]

Mt. Gay and tonic with key lime. A friend that used to live down island introduced me to it. Very refreshing on a hot Florida night.

[Dood]

Foursquare spiced and tonic with lime.

[angelsword]

Cigana cachaca with Coke.

[Scottes]

Many years ago, when i was just starting to find good rums, I tried the Barbancourt 15-year-old. A friend and I tried this rum several times during the night, and we simply did not like it at all. I literally poured the rest of the bottle into the campfire to get some flames going.

But yesterday a friend subjected me to a blind taste-testing to see how many rums I could identify. One that he slipped in was the Barbancourt 8-year-old. Delicious. Though I had no hope of identifying it, I asked for another dram just so I could enjoy it. That is definitely a rum that will be going on my shelf.

Another that he gave me was the El Dorado 15-year-old. Wow, is that a nice rum, especially after its been sitting for a few minutes. I'll be enjoying this for some time, wallowing in its delicious complexities.

[Berbician]

I tried Old Oak White a few days ago - I don't think that it's made any more - as the shop had run out of El Dorado:( , and I needed something for mixing. Anyway, I wasn't expecting much but I was pleasantly surprised - definitely one of the better whites.:)

[Matusalem]

Those are some nice prices. But I'd still buy the 15 locally, and save the extra gas money. :-)Hey don't say your boy isn't doing his best to get you straightened out:

http://www.internetwines.com/rws33295.html


The finest aged rum, Demerara has established a reputation over the last 300 years for producing the best rums in the world. This supreme product has been specially selected, blended to perfection and aged in oaken casks for at least 21 years.


rws33295Regular price: $73.33 Sale price: $44.00

You might also look at the ridiculous closeout price they have on the 12 unless I read it wrong, it's under $14 / bottle.

Zacapa 23 for less than HiTime's usual sale price too.

[Hank Koestner]

When I posted the sale last week, I purchased the 12 and 21 El Dorado at those prices! Also Vizcaya VSOP at around 40.

[Scottes]

Sure, rub it in. I just paid $33 for the ED 15, $65 for the 21, and I can't even get the Vizcaya!

I can't even use Internetwines anyway, since they can't ship to Massachusetts...



As a note, I'd pay $33 for the El Dorado 15-year-old, no problem. That is a fine rum, and worth the price.

[Matusalem]

Sure, rub it in. I just paid $33 for the ED 15, $65 for the 21, and I can't even get the Vizcaya!

I can't even use Internetwines anyway, since they can't ship to Massachusetts...



As a note, I'd pay $33 for the El Dorado 15-year-old, no problem. That is a fine rum, and worth the price.Scottes, the one piece of advice I'd offer you is ORDER and get rejected. In many cases what is posted isn't always observed to the tee as the volume of purchases can be overwhelming. The popular California vendor with the great price on Zacapa use to mail "candles" and fine peppermills etc. to just about anywhere. They got busted on it (I'm sure) and now don't ship outside Cali... website says so but...

Also if you do try that route - Don't do something like email them and say I live in [X] can you deliver there or would you make an exception. Those that do so knowingly typically use an excuse such as the stock boy is new and should have known better (if called on an unauthorized shipment). Simply order. If they catch it and refuse - you won't be charged.

[Scottes]

Good, sneaky plan... :-)

[bluewave6]

Last night enjoyed a glass of Plantation Trinidad 1993. I really enjoy the rums from the Planation line. I wish I could try their Guayana and Venezuelan ones, but have not been able to locate them at a place on line that will ship to Delaware.

Tonight I am sitting outside next to the fire pit sipping on Zaya 12. This is quite nice not quite as smooth as Zacapa 23 but just as enjoyable. Got to go throw another log on the fire

[Hank Koestner]

El Dorado 21...Rich and complex with a honey like consistency. Delicious,
Although I have to taste it against the 15. Maybe I should do a line tasting, since I have the 5, 12 15 and 21. Have to find the time! This is a cigar rum.

[Dood]

Last night was a "pizza and hang out" night with my brother. Didn't seem like a sipping kind of night, so we went with Cuba Libres made with Sailor Jerry and some key limes.

[Troy]

El Dorado 15 in Ti Punch. I have come to really appreciate this rum.

[Scottes]

This weekend is the day I close down camp for the season, and probably the last chance I have to do some random samplings with my friend Phil. I'm going down prepared with a bunch of new stuff: 4 Platantions - Trinidad `91 and `93, a Venezuelan and Barbados Grande Reserve. 2 Agricoles - Depaz Blue Cane and a bottle of J. M. 1997. Pango spiced rum - bought on a recommendation so let's hope. 3 rum from Temptryst - I've had them for weeks but have had no time to crack them. A mini of Trois Riviиres Rhum Agricole which I expect that Phil won't like.

Let's hope the weekend brings some rum happines...

[bluewave6]

This weekend is the day I close down camp for the season, and probably the last chance I have to do some random samplings with my friend Phil. I'm going down prepared with a bunch of new stuff: 4 Platantions - Trinidad `91 and `93, a Venezuelan and Barbados Grande Reserve. 2 Agricoles - Depaz Blue Cane and a bottle of J. M. 1997. Pango spiced rum - bought on a recommendation so let's hope. 3 rum from Temptryst - I've had them for weeks but have had no time to crack them. A mini of Trois Rivières Rhum Agricole which I expect that Phil won't like.

Let's hope the weekend brings some rum happines...

I would like to hear what you think of the Plantation Venezuelan rum. I really like the Plantation line of rums but have nit been able to locate the Venezuela, Nicaraqua or Guyana line in DE or a place on line that will ship to DE. I have a case of 91' Barbados and several bottles of 91' Trinidad. I went and bought all the local stores had when I heard they were not shipping these to DE anymore :(

[Berbician]

I tried some One Barrel (from Belize) a few hours ago - delicious:)

[cigar-aficionado]

Going to celebrate my birthday today with some Guayabite del Pinar, a gift from a friend in Cuba. Not tried it before but looking forward to my first glass:D

[chucklebean]

Got the Coke and limes out because I was drinking with girls tonight. Started with some Havana Club Aсejo Reserva and a Cruzan Light top (don't know why) and moved into my new Appleton Gold, which is highly passable for $14.

[bluewave6]

Last night I tried a couple of Cachaca that I have. Started the night with a glass of Prata Cachaca with a twist of lime on the rocks....was pretty decent. Them moved to Cigana (sp?) with a twist of lime and a splash of tonis water....quite refreshing. I also have some Pitu but I find this stuff too strong unless it is mixed with a very strong fruit juice. Have not been able to say that I reaaly enjoy the Pitu. The Prata is surprisingly smooth and tastey

[Scottes]

I would like to hear what you think of the Plantation Venezuelan rum. I really like the Plantation line of rums but have nit been able to locate the Venezuela, Nicaraqua or Guyana line in DE or a place on line that will ship to DE. I have a case of 91' Barbados and several bottles of 91' Trinidad. I went and bought all the local stores had when I heard they were not shipping these to DE anymore :(
I finally got time to write it up here: http://scottesrum.com/2007/09/25/4-plantation-rums/

In a nutshell, I found the Venezuelan to be very interesting, and intriguing.

[jman8973]

It's actually pretty good. I had 2 swigs of it a half hour ago, and it tastes like spiced rum. I wanted to get the Appleton Estate VX, but it was $20 at the liquor store...this was $18. Anyone else try this? Like it? Dislike it? Feel free to post.

[WTV Rum]

Had El Dorado 15 yr. Excellent stuff!!

[Hank Koestner]

Ron Botran 1863. Had not had this in awhile, a delicious rum!

[chucklebean]

It's actually pretty good. I had 2 swigs of it a half hour ago, and it tastes like spiced rum. I wanted to get the Appleton Estate VX, but it was $20 at the liquor store...this was $18. Anyone else try this? Like it? Dislike it? Feel free to post.

On my first-ever trip to the liquor store (ten months ago :)) I bought a bottle of Mount Gay Eclipse. I think it took me two weekends to drink it all with some friends. It was good - better than Captain Morgan or Bacardi Silver, which comprised all of my previous experience with rum - but nothing to write home about anymore IME, even as a mixer. Cruzan Light for $12 covers most of its bases, and Ron Matusalem ($20) or Appleton Special ($14) can take the rest.

Cockspur is a MUCH better Barbadian, and the 5-star is only $20.

[Milicent]

I introduced a friend to rum this evening. I offered him six rums to begin with. We had Cockspur 5 Star, Flor de Cana Gran Reserva, Barbancourt 8 year, Cruzan Single Barrel, Pyrat XO, and Ron Zacapa 23. Of all six, he preferred the Cruzan Single Barrel.

I am always surprised how much Barbancourt's 8 year surprises me. It is so much better than I ever expect it to be. It is subtle, granted, but it is an excellent rum.

I was happy to have an excuse to enjoy all six. I thought I'd measured the portions appropriately, but I realized I'd had more alcohol than I'd realized when my wife had to drive home. So many great rums.

[Gustarron]

Havana Club Cuban Barrel Proof. Excellent

[jman8973]

On my first-ever trip to the liquor store (ten months ago :)) I bought a bottle of Mount Gay Eclipse. I think it took me two weekends to drink it all with some friends. It was good - better than Captain Morgan or Bacardi Silver, which comprised all of my previous experience with rum - but nothing to write home about anymore IME, even as a mixer. Cruzan Light for $12 covers most of its bases, and Ron Matusalem ($20) or Appleton Special ($14) can take the rest.

Cockspur is a MUCH better Barbadian, and the 5-star is only $20.
thx chucklebean, I'll look for Cruzan Light or Appleton Special. I live in WI, so it's a great beer state, but most of the rum is imported, driving prices UP...

[jman8973]

Hey everybody, I just had Cruzan light, got it for $16 at Steve's Wine Market in west Madison. I took 4 shots straight and mixed 2 with coffee. They tasted great...it has a lighter, vanilla taste even tho it's 80 proof! We have a winner!


special thx chucklebean

J-man;)

[Mr Fjeld]

Last night I had several single malts but also some El Dorado 15. Really good!

[Milicent]

I had rum punches made with El Dorado rums, both their white and dark. I had never seen either of these bottles. Neither had age statements. The dark was the better of the two, at least in the punches, but I am curious about these rums. I assume these are the bottom level entries of the well-known El Dorado line. Any one know anything about either of these bottom shelf rums?

[chucklebean]

I drank Pampero this weekend for the first time. It's one of the top five things that's ever touched my lips, full stop :)

[Count Silvio]

I had rum punches made with El Dorado rums, both their white and dark. I had never seen either of these bottles. Neither had age statements. The dark was the better of the two, at least in the punches, but I am curious about these rums. I assume these are the bottom level entries of the well-known El Dorado line. Any one know anything about either of these bottom shelf rums? I've had the 'El Dorado Superior Dark Rum.' I have no idea of the age but probably quite young. It is ok but not remarkable. I didn't get much pleasure out of it drinking it straight but I've used it for cooking and mixing.

[Hank Koestner]

One step up to the Eldorado 5 year old is recomended. The superiors are solid rums that mix well, they can bring some of that rich Demerara style to a cocktail. There is quite a difference though, to the 5, and it is not expensive.:o

[Edward Hamilton]

Like a lot of distillers Demerara Distillers doesn't put an age statement on their youngest rums. According to the importer the white and gold are aged about 3 years. In my experience these rums lack the addition of the heavier component that give Demerara rums their distinctive taste.

I mix the El Dorad 5 year old in cocktails but maybe that's because I'm spoiled sipping their 12 and 15 year old rums.

[Dood]

Well, last night I didn't drink anything, but tonight it's a nice Ron Matusalem Gran Reserva - neat.

[chucklebean]

Because I'm unnecessarily flashy with my bar, almost all my rums (and the rest of my liquors) were speed pourer spouted until Monday, when I realized that fruit flies love drinking even more than I do.

Now my Matusalem is ruined :( but I vow to rebuild!

[angelsword]

Because I'm unnecessarily flashy with my bar, almost all my rums (and the rest of my liquors) were speed pourer spouted until Monday, when I realized that fruit flies love drinking even more than I do.

Now my Matusalem is ruined :( but I vow to rebuild!

Ruined! Maybe not. What kind if flavor do they add? Scorpions add a sweet nutty flavor when dropped live into the rum. :D

[Dood]

Ruined! Maybe not. What kind if flavor do they add? Scorpions add a sweet nutty flavor when dropped live into the rum. :D

I am simultaneously terrified and impressed that you know that.

[Edward Hamilton]

Because I'm unnecessarily flashy with my bar, almost all my rums (and the rest of my liquors) were speed pourer spouted until Monday, when I realized that fruit flies love drinking even more than I do.

Now my Matusalem is ruined :( but I vow to rebuild!

The real problem with speed pourers and a home bar is that the alcohol evaporates and what is left in the bottle oxidizes resulting in a flat tasting spirit with less alcohol and flavor. The lightest alcohols in a bottle of rum, called acetyl aldehydes account for the floral aromas and flavors in the rum and they are the first to go. I don't like to even leave bottle open while I mix the next drink.

[Edward Hamilton]

I am simultaneously terrified and impressed that you know that.

Angelsword is a wealth of knowledge from years of experimentation. In the world of science there is a saying, "No experiment is a failure." Maybe you don't like the nutty sweet flavor of scorpions, but if you do, that's one way to add it to your rum. In the islands, scorpions aren't uncommon in spiced rum known 'as under the counter,' but they certainly aren't the only addition to rum that would make some cringe at the thought. Cheers, to your health.

[Gustarron]

Well, am now drinking Havana Club Barrel Proof (Cuban), no age given on the bottle.

Evidently not aged many years, but excellent. Apparently aged a second time in newer medium roasted oak casks. Vanilla and lightly roasted coffee, complex, clean lingering atertaste.
Marvelous. One of the very best rums I have tasted.

[Dood]

The scorpion flavor made perfect sense as soon as it was mentioned, since that's what (in my experience) scorpions taste like. Just never would have occurred to me to try the in rum.

In the world of science there is a saying, "No experiment is a failure."

That's what I keep telling my wife as I tinker with the various mason jars full of rum, fruits, and spices in the kitchen.

I don't think I could talk her into letting me keep a jar with a scorpion in it in the kitchen though... ;)

[chucklebean]

The real problem with speed pourers and a home bar is that the alcohol evaporates and what is left in the bottle oxidizes resulting in a flat tasting spirit with less alcohol and flavor. The lightest alcohols in a bottle of rum, called acetyl aldehydes account for the floral aromas and flavors in the rum and they are the first to go. I don't like to even leave bottle open while I mix the next drink.

Excellent advice! I never thought of that, but it makes sense. I won't make that mistake again, thanks.

[angelsword]

I don't think I could talk her into letting me keep a jar with a scorpion in it in the kitchen though... ;)

Fortunately I have separate laboratory areas adequate for the hundreds of experiments I keep running.

[Chuck E. Mong]

Try the Royal Oak.....it's even better.

[Dood]

Fortunately I have separate laboratory areas adequate for the hundreds of experiments I keep running.

*Dood starts considering quitting his job to apprentice to angelsword*

[Milicent]

I recently ordered two bottles of Brugal's Anejo Extra Viejo (thanks for the link, Hank) and so decided to revisit the standard Brugal Anejo. I've had it neat, on the rocks, in a standard punch (1 of sour (lime juice), 2 of sweet (simple sugar syrup), three of strong (rum), and four of weak (water)), and in a Cuba Libre over the past few days. I enjoyed it most in the punch but found it lacking neat and on the rocks. It makes a decent Cuba Libre.

I'd forgotten the distinctive tastes Brugal brings to the bottle. While I like the first taste, it quickly seems to fade away and seems almost watery. I can't help thinking more aging would add the depth and complexity I find missing in this offering. I am anticipating the extra viejo will fulfill my hopes. We'll see.

Still, I can't complain. Rum is rum is rum, and I love it all so. By the way, rum punches made with key limes are even better. Give it a shot.

I also have been enjoying Flor de Cana's Gran Reserva (7 year old) neat so far this evening. If I had a house rum, this would be in the final runnings. It's a great rum at a great price, especially with Costco's liquor store helping out with their great deals ($33 for a handle). Tasty.

[bluewave6]

Tonight I enjoyed a sampling of Barbancort 4yr, 8yr and 15yr. All of them are excellent and quite different from each other. I think between them all I liked the 15yr the best. It had a smooth smokey flavor that was like sipping smooth butter toffee. For the price though the 8yr is more practical, but the 15yr is great for special times.

[Dood]

No rum for me this weekend as my wife, some friends, and I headed to the local Oktoberfest, where I enjoyed a few Spaten Oktoberfests as well as a few Kostritzer Schwartzbiers.

[Scottes]

I did a couple of tasting over the weekend, and one included Temptryst Cherrywood Reserve and Tropical Light - both were new for me. I like the Tropical and love the Cherrywood, but thanks to some talks with someone who loved the Tropical I know that I have to revisit it and study it intently.

I also attended RumFest in NYC and got to try many new rums for the first time. Botran 12 and Solera (wow!), JM VSOP, Flor De Cana 18- and 12-year-olds, several cachacas, Vizcaya VXOP (wow!!) and several others which I can't remember at this time.

Over the last 3 days I've had at least 50 different rums. What a collection, and I'm glad that I took copious notes so that I know which ones to run out and buy and which others to get eventually.

I also picked up 11 or 12 rums at a couple stores in NYC. I have no idea when I'll get to them, but I will some day. Notable ones include Orinoco, Neisson Blanc and Reserve Speciale, Santa Teresa Reserva and Orange Liqueur, and several other that I just can't remember right now...

[angelsword]

I was also at the NYC Rumfest but only as a visitor, not an exhibitor. Favorites from the rumfest include: Viscaya VXOP, Flor de Cana 18, Rhum JM 1997, and Don Q Grand Anejo.

Right now I'm sipping on a Neisson Reserve Speciale that I picked up in NYC.

[Scottes]

Argh, I missed the Don Q Grand Anejo! I thought they only had the Silver, Gold, and Limon.

But, lucky for me, I did manage to score two minis of the Limon. :rolleyes:

[Dood]

Last night was Appleton V/X, Amaretto, mineral water, and a squeeze of lime.

[Milicent]

This evening began with a glass of Oronoco. This is the best light/white rum I have ever had. Oronoco is an amazing rum that I highly recommend.

[angelsword]

Argh, I missed the Don Q Grand Anejo! I thought they only had the Silver, Gold, and Limon.

But, lucky for me, I did manage to score two minis of the Limon. :rolleyes:

The Grand Anejo was only one bottle in the auction. I think someone had outbid me but failed to pay.

[Scottes]

The Grand Anejo was only one bottle in the auction. I think someone had outbid me but failed to pay.
Ah, I don't feel so bad for missing it then.

[Scottes]

This evening began with a glass of Orinoco. This is the best light/white rum I have ever had. Orinoco is an amazing rum that I highly recommend.
I just grabbed a bottle of this in NYC over the weekend. Hopefully I'll find some time to enjoy it soon.

[Berbician]

I've tried quite a lot of different rums over the last few days (mostly at the Rumfest).

El Dorado 15 year old was fantastic - even better than I remembered.

Cruzan Single Barrel was phenomenal - this was the first time that I'd ever tried it.

XM (Demerara) 10 year old was also very good.

Doorly's 5 year old - not bad.

Trois Rivieres White was quite interesting - this was the first time that I've ever tried an "Agricole".

Elements 8 Platinum was very disappointing - it didn't seem to taste of anything at all.

Also tried some of the cocktails at the Rumfest. I was pleasantly surprised by the mojito - very nice balance of flavours. The rum punch, on the other hand, was disappointing - it tasted overwhelmingly of that horrible almond syrup. Also didn't like the "Dark and Stormy" - I don't like anything with bubbles in it. :(

Overall, a very enlightening couple of days.

[Milicent]

After having another evening beginning with Oronoco and knowing Scottes propensity for writing insightful reviews, I can't help but anticipating his comments re Oronoco whenever he does try it. Don't keep us waiting. Don't keep yourself waiting. It will be worth your while; I promise.

[Dood]

I almost picked up a bottle of Orinco on my visit to BevMo to pick up some Weihenstephaner for an event this weekend.

Anyway, last night was just Ron Zacapa Centenario 23. Silky, sweet goodness.

[Scottes]

It must be destiny... This is the third time I've seen mention of Oronoco tonight, and every time I was reminded that I bought the bottle 10 days ago... Alas, it's too late for me to do a review, and I'm still too tired after last week's "vacation" which allowed me only 3 hours of relaxation.

However, I did grab the bottle and place it next to the PC so that I'd remember it tomorrow - without anyone helping me. :-)

My gosh, that's a beautiful bottle. I can't resist, I'm having a taste...

Yes, that's very, very good. I can't wait until I'm able to concentrate on it tomorrow night.... What a wonderful white.

[Scottes]

Anyway, last night was just Ron Zacapa Centenario 23. Silky, sweet goodness.
Nice review on that Dood!

[Rum Whisperer]

Ron Abuelo reserva especial goood!!!!

[Scottes]

I tried the Oronoco tonight - several times - and it was excellent. Mark this as my favorite white rum.

http://scottesrum.com/2007/10/24/oronoco/

If anyone knows of other white rums that come close, please let me know!

[Edward Hamilton]

Thank you Scottes for the correct spelling of ORONOCO, Orinoco is the name of a major river in Brazil, but the spirit is called ORONOCO.

Since production of Oronoco began there has been some adjustment in the amount of vanilla flavor in the rum, which I'm told comes from the addition of aged Venezuelan rum. Since this is a Diageo product, any guesses as to which aged Venezuelan rum this might be?

[Dood]

Nice review on that Dood!

Thanks for the correction on the process!

[Matusalem]

Since this is a Diageo product, any guesses as to which aged Venezuelan rum this might be?I'd have to guess your thoughts are there might be some Pampero involved in the vanila component of Oronoco - or no?

The problems I have are it does taste of natural occuring vanila (imho) not unlike charred oak bourbon barrels often exibit, but which Pampero rum has that strong of a vanila burst about it? Please tell me so I can check it out. And even so, in small quantity as described, that's not a small scale flavor enhancement IMHO. Can a small amount of Venezuelan rum impart that much into what otherwise I assume should taste more like a cachaca?

Maybe I'm just overly skeptical.

At any rate, I'm glad Millicent and Scottes have tried the O and approve of it. It's my number one white and I feel better... as I said before some people I've introduced to it find it odd or an anomolly.

In reality I think the truth of it is the persons are somewhat familiar with white rums but have had no white rum with a remotely similar array of flavors. The knee-jerk reaction seems to be to explain it away as *gimmick*. "It's a pre-mixed cocktail concoction"... "It's not straight rum - is it?"

[Scottes]

"It's not straight rum - is it?"
In ways, one could say that it's not. Look at the process - copper still, then apparently twice through a column still. Mixed with an aged rum from another country. And married in a unique wood.

This is not typical.

But then again, is it that atypical? How many true "single barrel" rums exist? (Ed?) I've never seen nor heard of one that I know of. I'd venture a guess and say that every rum we have available in the States is a blend of different batches and different ages. Oronoco is blended with 2 different rums, so this isn't so atypical.

And I wouldn't be surprised if there are many rums that are blended using rums from 2 different countries, either. Given the amount that some distilleries export in bulk, like DDL and Flor De Cana, it would not surprise me that some rums are blended using rums from multiple countries. Just a wild guess, and I'd love to hear concrete stories for or against this hypothesis.

As to marriage in different barrels, cachaзas are commonly aged in "unique" woods, ie; not oak. And Doorly's XO is finished in sherry casks, and some (all?) of the Plantation rums are finished in cognac casks. Temptryst does some wonderful work with cherry. So this marriage in Amendam casks is not all that unusual. (Anyone have more info on Amendam?? I'm fairly familiar with exotic hardwoods from an old hobby and I've never heard of it, nor does the Internet yield any info.)

So is the Oronoco process all that atypical? Not really.


(And feel free to correct me, since I know I'm making some semi-educated guesses here. I don't want anyone to think that I'm making statements of truth here.)


Personally, I'd love to see some more works like this. I've been on a hunt for a flavorful sippable white for a while now, and have even played with "home blending" in an attempt to achieve it. Oronoco is excellent, but I'd like to see it taken a step or two further. One of my first thoughts was a desire to taste & smell more of the cachaзa tones. I wonder how it would taste with a splash of a flavorful agricole blanc? And then another splash of an aged rum with heavy molasses undertones?

Oronoco is excellent, but my mind still thinks that white perfection has not yet been achieved.

[Matusalem]

Scottes:

Thanks for the thought out reply. Just to be clear, those quotes "It's not really rum" etc. were not myself speaking. I was quoting people I've poured it for who refuse to accept it's white but tastes like "that". They insist that there's a gimmick to it. One went so far as to hold up the bottle and insinuate that I had added something to it... Vanilla extract or some type of fruit syrup / juice etc.:rolleyes:

Flor de Cana 4 is about the next closest white I can think of packing some hearty rum flavors I associate more typical of dark(er) aged rums... but it's a noticable distance IMHO.

To be clear, I'm not critical of Oronoco or in defiance of what ever it is. I'm sort of stuck on stupid here as they've all but completely neutralized the edge associated with most Cachaca I've tasted, and imparted flavor, blind folded. I'd swear was dark rum.

In that mind-frame, Oronoco is like a double how'd they do that. Telling me it's possibly Pampero that is responsible for the vanilla over-tone only adds more wham to the double whammy.

Anyway I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's worth having around and talking about!

[Hank Koestner]

Oronoco is a fabulous rum, the best I have tasted in the "white" catagorie so far, excluding rhum agricole. This is one time when I can not make a dead on comparison, the flavors are so unique in each that I can not say which would be better. It is nice to have both on my shelf, and choose between them according to my mood.
Another rum that has a unique and interesting taste is Matusalem Platino White.

[bluewave6]

Tonight I tried some Rogue Dark rum again. I am about 2/3 through the bottle and the verdict is still out. It is a very different rum. The first smell of the rum reminds me of opening a bottle of multi vitamins (sounds weird but that is the first thing I think of when I uncork the bottle). I am pretty sure if this rum received more ageing it would be really complex and added smoothness would make this an awesome rum. Oh well I will have to revisit this one another night to make my final decision. For the price (around $32)...there are much better choices out there but I like to have a variety of rums to pick from.

[Dood]

Another rum that has a unique and interesting taste is Matusalem Platino White.

I have to second this. While I have not yet had the pleasure of trying Oronoco (of course, now I REALLY have to since Scott, like myself, seems to have never really been a big fan of whites), I picked up a bottle of Matusalem Platino the other day and tried it out and it was quite good.

I didn't have the time to sit down and do a real thorough...um..."inspection". I'll have to do that.

[Scottes]

...since Scott, like myself, seems to have never really been a big fan of whites...
Well, I spent years sipping fine, sweet, aged rums. Up until a year ago I'd say that half of the rum I drank was Zacapa 23. How could I go wrong with that?

I never sipped a white rum until 7 months ago when I tried Prichard's Crystal. And most of the whites have been investigating them for use in tiki cocktails, so none of those have been "sipping" quality. I have yet to really investigate an agricole blanc neat - I have 2 and I'm waiting to find a third before I compare them. From what I hear I just don't think that Clement and Neisson make a good pair for comparison.

My palate is improving and whites are a part of that, but I think it will be a while before I truly understand whites. I'll work on it though.

[Scottes]

They insist that there's a gimmick to it.
As I somewhat implied, it is kind of a gimmick, but not really. I think they pushed the limits, and I applaud them for it. Push More!

I'm sort of stuck on stupid here as they've all but completely neutralized the edge associated with most Cachaca I've tasted, and imparted flavor, blind folded. I'd swear was dark rum.
Yes, I think they took down the cachaça a bit too much, but I love that it's there.

Anyway I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's worth having around and talking about!
Yes, no doubt. I can't wait to pour this for some friends. Alas, I also want to hoard it since it's a 3-1/2 hour drive to get some more!

[Edward Hamilton]

One of the reasons this forum exists is to promote responsible discussion and a better understanding of rum.

In reading some of the posts about Oronoco there seems to be some confusion so I'm going to start another thread about Oronoco (http://ministryofrum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436) under White Rum Forum.

[bluewave6]

Tonight I enjoyed a glass of Old Mill Rum. This is a quite a nice smooth rum. Has a light vanilla taste with hints of banana and apples. Quite a nice variety of flavors in there.

[Dood]

Tonight, while I wait for people to get read for a Halloween party, I decided to finally take my vanilla rum infusion for a spin. I'm actually not too displeased with the results, although I know I can make it better. It's decent in a cocktail, but I think I can make it somewhat smoother so that the vanilla isn't so jarring.

[Dood]

Last night I had the same thing I'm having tonight: Zaya and Ginger.

[Milicent]

My father returned from Guatemala yesterday and brought me back a double-pack of Ron Zacapa 15. Perfect choice since I have enjoyed the 23 for some time. Naturally, I tried it last night while watching 1973's "The Wicker Man," which was only appropriate since it was Halloween.

The 15 year old is similar in color but considerably less sweet than it's older sibling. The nose was light, a faint scent of what I get from the 23. It took a little while to open up, but once I added a few drops of spring water to it I discovered what makes this a nice rum. There is a little heat, oak, and flavors of brown sugar, raisins, and maybe even vanilla. Although very different from the 23, this is still a nice rum. Thumbs up. I like it.

[Scottes]

I've had the 15, and I consider it a good substitute for the 23, but I generally have either the 23, Zaya, or both so I never bother buying the 15. But you description makes the 15 sound more like the Zaya. Have you ever compared the Zaya to the 15?

[Milicent]

I prefer the Zaya over the 15. The Centenario is less sweet and "drier." That last word isn't too helpful, but it is the word that comes to mind. I'll do a side by side this evening, but I am confident the Zaya will win out.

[Milicent]

All right. I had Ron Zacapa 15 last night alongside Zaya. They are distinct creatures. Every time I try to encapsulate my thoughts re RZ's 15, I can only think of RZ 23 Light. The Zaya holds its own. I prefer it to the RZ 15.

At the same time, I really enjoy the 15. Perhaps, it is precisely because it is lighter than the 23 that I like it as much as I do. There are times the 23 is almost too much for me.

Interestingly, I reached for the 15 this afternoon over the Zaya or the 23. I enjoy it and will continue drinking it.

What do the rest of you think about these three rums when compared to one another.

[Edward Hamilton]

After a long three weeks on the road that took me from Chicago to London, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego then back to Los Angeles I was lucky enough to be at friend's house to whom I had given a bottle of El Dorado 21 so we opened it and enjoyed a few drams over a single cube of ice. Every time I drink this rum I wish I had more of it, fortunately I know where a few more bottles are awaiting my arrival.

[Scottes]

Hmmm. I guess I'm going to have to grab a bottle of the 15 after all.

[angelsword]

After a long three weeks on the road that took me from Chicago to London, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego then back to Los Angeles I was lucky enough to be at friend's house to whom I had given a bottle of El Dorado 21 so we opened it and enjoyed a few drams over a single cube of ice. Every time I drink this rum I wish I had more of it, fortunately I know where a few more bottles are awaiting my arrival.

How is the El Dorado 25? I've ordered some 21 and have been eyeballing the 25. But the price is a bit dear.

[Edward Hamilton]

I have only tried the 25 on a couple of occasions and found it to be very good, but it definitely is on the pricey side of the bar. A few years ago El Dorado bottled a 21 year old rum which I didn't think was as good as their current blend of rum bottled under that label, though in both blends, the youngest rum in that blend is 21 years old.

The 25 is a little drier than the 21 and certainly isn't for every day drinking. Personally I'd wait until I'm ready to celebrate something to open a bottle of this rum. The other dilemma is that once the bottle is open you really owe it to the rum to drink it and not just let it oxidize in the bottle while the cork closure deteriorates after the bottle has been opened.

[Hank Koestner]

Ed,
Would you elaborate on the open bottle issue? I have a couple that have been open for some time. :( How fast does the oxidation (Sp?) take place, and how does it effect the rum?:confused:

The Eldorado 15 and 21 are 2 of my favorites. I would love to taste the 25, and the price is steep. The 5 and 12 are very good, also. El Dorado rums are my go to rums for rich full bodied cigars.

[Scottes]

I've been thinking about picking up a can of that wine preserver stuff, like Winelife or Private Preserve. Sounds like something I should do since I'll never drink all of this stuff any time soon.

But... How long will it a half-full, well-corked bottle of rum last before it tastes noticeably different? And how long will it take before before it tastes different from a freshly-opened bottle of the same rum?

[Edward Hamilton]

Here's a link to another thread (http://ministryofrum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1996#post1996) about oxidation. I've never tried any of the wine preservers, they should work, but I prefer to just consume it in good time.

[Dilly Dobbs]

My self I am finishing a bottle of Salior Jerry.....witch i have found to be very good for a spiced rum.

[bluewave6]

Last night I had a nip of 10 Cane which was much better than I originally recalled and a nip of Black Seal. I would have to say tha tBlack Seal is on my list of best buys for sipping rum. I know it has artificial carmel coloring but it is pretty darn smooth and rich.

[Scottes]

I've been sipping the Vizcaya VXOP the last couple nights. Very nice stuff to explore.

[Count Silvio]

Sippin' Ron Pampero and writing a review.

[Hank Koestner]

Le Mauny rhum view agricole 1995, neat. Smooth as honey..........rich and delicious.

[Dood]

Had some of my vanilla infusion with ginger beer, followed by a glass of Mt. Gay XO with mineral water and lime.

[RumBarPhilly]

Last night, had a little Ron de Barillito 3 star, then I opened up and tried Diplomatico, which was an interesting rum! Tonight is a Zacapa night though!

[Edward Hamilton]

Tonight I enjoyed a glass of Old Mill Rum. This is a quite a nice smooth rum. Has a light vanilla taste with hints of banana and apples. Quite a nice variety of flavors in there.

Old Mill is, or was, a private label from the St Croix distillery imported to the Oregon. I haven't seen that brand elsewhere in the US.

[Dood]

Saturday night I opened my brand new bottle of Oronoco with my brother. Wow. That's all either of us could say.

Tonight we had chili for dinner, so Zaya just seemed like the right choice.

[angelsword]

Old Mill is, or was, a private label from the St Croix distillery imported to the Oregon. I haven't seen that brand elsewhere in the US.

Gray's and Co., Beau Plan, Mauritius also has an Old Mill Rum. I don't believe that it is widely available outside of the country. http://graysincltd.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/12002062/Old_Mill_White_Rum.html It has been a while since I tasted it; I should retaste soon.

[bluewave6]

I picked up this Old Mill rum online from Wine Chateau.

[Edward Hamilton]

Gray's and Co., Beau Plan, Mauritius also has an Old Mill Rum. I don't believe that it is widely available outside of the country. http://graysincltd.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/12002062/Old_Mill_White_Rum.html It has been a while since I tasted it; I should retaste soon.

Thanks, I haven't seen that Old Mill Rum in the US. It looks like Grays is a Mauritius Co that exports to East Africa and Europe.

This is the Old Mill Rum (http://www.oldmillrum.com/) I've seen in the US which is a gold rum where the one from Mauritius is a white rum.

[bluewave6]

Tonight I tried some of the Doorly's 5yr that I got a good deal on ($9.99 @ total wine in Wilmington, DE). I plan on heading back next week and buying a case :) Very nice especially given the price.

[angelsword]

Thanks, I haven't seen that Old Mill Rum in the US. It looks like Grays is a Mauritius Co that exports to East Africa and Europe.

They also seem to export quite a bit to Australia.

[Milicent]

Last night was a rum punch (1, 2, 3, 4 variety) with Cruzan Single Barrel. I was impressed with the flavor coming through the other ingredients. Quite enjoyable. This was a good example of the qualities of good rum coming through in mixed drinks. Not to say that Single Barrel is the best rum in the world, but it does work better than the other Cruzan's in this punch. Thumbs up.

[Edward Hamilton]

Have you tried Cruzan Estate Diamond in your rum punch?

[Milicent]

I haven't tried Cruzan Estate Diamond yet. I've seen it once, but my Costco is selling 1.75 bottles of the Single Barrel for $36. That was the first time I'd tried it. From what I've heard the Estate Diamond is the better value. But if, as in this instance, the cost is the same or better for the Single Barrel, which of the two would you recommend?

I began this evening with a punch made with Foursquare. I don't know why I waited so long to try this. Excellent.

[Milicent]

Rum punch made with 10 Cane. I wasn't too impressed with 10 Cane the first few times I had it. I found it on close out for just over $20 this afternoon and thought I'd give it another chance.

It is much better than I'd remembered. The packaging is excellent and I appreciate the flavors now more than I did before, but it still seems overpriced. I would gladly purchase it again for the price I paid this afternoon. Still, I am pleased with my purchase and will enjoy this liter while it lasts (~$22 for a liter was a great buy).

My next drink will be a finger or two of St. James Hors D'Age. I think the 10 Cane has primed me. We'll see.

PS: I found a new liquor store that carries El Dorado 15, Flor de Cana 12 year and Black Label (5 year), Cruzan Diamond Estate, Cruzan Rum Cream, Zaya, and a host of other rums I usually have a hard time finding. Good day.

[Scottes]

Jeff "Beachbum" Berry was in Boston last night at a shindig and was mixing up, among other things, Navy Grogs. This was THE BEST tiki cocktail I have ever had. Period.

3/4 oz lime juice
3/4 oz grapefruit juice
3/4 honey
1 oz Light Puerto Rican Rum (probably Cruzan White, knowing the Bum)
1 oz Dark Jamaican Rum (probably Appleton Extra)
1 oz Demerara (absolutely Lemon Hart)
1 oz chilled club soda

Heat honey until liquid, then mix with juices in blender. Stir in rums and soda.

These were made with ice cones. Pack a 10oz pilsner glass with fine crushed ice. Poke a hole through the center with a chopstick to make a passage for the straw. Freeze overnight.

Dang, they were good. Real good.

[Edward Hamilton]

Jeff "Beachbum" Berry was in Boston last night at a shindig and was mixing up, among other things, Navy Grogs. This was THE BEST tiki cocktail I have ever had. Period.

3/4 oz lime juice
3/4 oz grapefruit juice
3/4 honey
1 oz Light Puerto Rican Rum (probably Cruzan White, knowing the Bum)
1 oz Dark Jamaican Rum (probably Appleton Extra)
1 oz Demerara (absolutely Lemon Hart)

Heat honey until liquid, then mix with juices in blender. Stir in rums and soda.

These were made with ice cones. Pack a 10oz pilsner glass with fine crushed ice. Poke a hole through the center with a chopstick to make a passage for the straw. Freeze overnight.

Dang, they were good. Real good.

The Puerto Rican rum was either Don Q, Castillo or Bacardi, definitely not Cruzan that's from the Virgin Islands.

[Scottes]

The Puerto Rican rum was either Don Q, Castillo or Bacardi, definitely not Cruzan that's from the Virgin Islands.
Yes, that would be if the recipe was followed exactly - or if it was made in the 1940s. The Bum recommends substituting Cruzan White for all his collected tiki recipes that call for Puerto Rican Light.

From Sippin' Safari:
PUERTO RICAN RUM - Perhaps the least flavorful rums in the world, white and gold Puerto Rican are nevertheless the workhorse of every tropical bar. Any name brand will do... Better yet, sub Virgin islands rum for added flavor and bouquet...

[Edward Hamilton]

Thanks, I assumed, a very dangerous precedent, that this winding was sponsored by Rums of Puerto Rico. I completely agree with my friend Bum, that Puerto Rican rums are some of the least flavorful rums in the world and I don't drink a lot of Bacardi light but there are others that I do imbibe from time to time, especially when I'm in Puerto Rico.

The Puerto Rican rum being bottled today is very different from that bottled in the 1940s. Cruzan does have more flavor but is quite different from 1940s Puerto Rican rum.

[Milicent]

Scottes,

After reading, "This was THE BEST tiki cocktail I have ever had. Period," I want to give this recipe a shot. The only question I have is re the following line: "Stir in rums and soda." I didn't see soda in the list of ingredients. Can you clarify? Thanks in advance.

[Scottes]

I didn't see soda in the list of ingredients.
Ooops. Fixed.

Oh, and don't blend too long. The blender is needed to get the honey mixed in, but 10 seconds should do.

[Milicent]

I picked up a bottle of Clйment Premiиre Canne tonight, my second rhum agricole. I am currently enjoying a Ti punch made with it. Quite tasty.

[Dood]

While I didn't imbibe anything stronger than hot tea last night (I have a cold), during my trip to Anguilla last week I stopped by Roy's Beachside Grill (I don't have the business card I picked up so I may be back to correct the name). While there I met with Roy and he let me have a sip of the house-blended rum. This was absolutely one of the highlights of my trip. It was very good and was worth the trip to Anguilla from St. Maarten by itself.

[Edward Hamilton]

Every bar in the islands worth the name, has a house blend of rum. Most are made with the most popular local spirit, some spices and at least a couple of secret ingredients.

[Hank Koestner]

Tonight , I opened a bottle of Clement 10 Ans D' Age I brought home with me from my last trip. This rhum agricole is magnificent. I had tasted it on St. Barts,:cool: and new it was something special. Smooth and rich, full of flavor, beautifully balanced.:D It is a shame that more rhum agricole is not readily available in the states,:( I want so much for all of you to taste these rhums.
I love many molasses based rums,the many bottles I have to choose from would attest to that, but rhum agricole will always be my first love.:o

[Tiare]

Last night I had a ti punch with Depaz agricole blanc and a hint of Montebello. Nice when it rains constantly and gets dark already at 3.30.

[Hank Koestner]

Montebello light or dark? I have a bottle of Montebello Hor's d' Age, and a bottle of Depaz Blue Cane Amber. I dont know if those two would be good together. I found it interesting that you blended the two. The Depaz rhums are at the top of my list to bring home from the Islands. They were not available on St. Barts or St. Martin last time. Dark at 3:30? I would loose my mind..........:eek:

[Dood]

I recall being in Alaska in February and it being rather dark rather early.

The weirdest daylight issues I've had though were in the summer. I was in St. Petersburg, Russia in July of 1992 or 1993 and the sun didn't set until 11 pm.

Then in 2004 I was in Juno, Alaska for the summer solstice and the sun didn't set until after midnight...which actually made me miss dinner because I had been working and not watching the time. I looked at the clock when I realized it had gotten dark and was startled to find I had been working in my hotel room for 6 hours.

[Milicent]

I began celebrating Repeal Day this afternoon with a Foursquare-based punch. Wonderful. After trying (and enjoying) Montecristo's spiced rum, I have to come back to Foursquare as my favorite spiced rum. Montecristo can't complain since it is my second favorite. Of course, these are the only spiced rums I like.

[Matusalem]

I recall being in Alaska in February and it being rather dark rather early.

The weirdest daylight issues I've had though were in the summer. I was in St. Petersburg, Russia in July of 1992 or 1993 and the sun didn't set until 11 pm.

Then in 2004 I was in Juno, Alaska for the summer solstice and the sun didn't set until after midnight...which actually made me miss dinner because I had been working and not watching the time. I looked at the clock when I realized it had gotten dark and was startled to find I had been working in my hotel room for 6 hours.I was in Anchorage 2004 during the week leading up to the Solstice. Not sure of Anchorage's position to Juno's. If similar, did you stay up much past midnight? I don't recall the sun disappearing before 4AM nor it making its re-appearance later than 5:30AM.

In late January / February I thought most of Alaska was the exact opposite and dark 22+ hours per day?

EDIT: Sorry. So as not to threadjack completely, last night I poured about 2 fingers worth of some Cadenhead Green Label rum.

[Tiare]

Montebello light or dark?
Dark at 3:30? I would loose my mind..........:eek:

Montebello vieux, the bottle says 6 years. I really like the aftertaste it has..right now I have it in a ti punch alone.

I want to try the La Belle Cabresse from Guyana, that will be my next bottle I purchase.

Well, with the darkness..its something you need rum to cure..:D
The only daylight I see on my way to the subway in the morning rush, heading to work is a dark grey sky..then inside the office its just lightbulbs the whole day and when I go home at 5.30 its black...you see..I really need my ti punch or rum drink in the evening..

[Dood]

Juneau (I should probably spell it correctly) is well south of Anchorage...not sure of the direct distance, but I know that it's an 880 mile drive.