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charlie
09-13-2007, 11:19 PM
somewhere, I thought I read about a rum called ' Bamboo' and that it was triple distilled. I haven't be able to find it.
Are there triple distilled rums?
yes I am new to the great world of rum!
charlie

Edward Hamilton
09-16-2007, 05:38 PM
A lot of molasses based rums are triple distilled to remove the high concentration of sulfur and other minerals found in the raw material. Bamboo has been introduced a couple of times, but I haven't seen it on a store shelf. The last time I tasted it I thought it was very light and clean

scheer
09-20-2007, 09:28 AM
This is a funny situation!; We got inquiries from all over the world to create a rum that would fit in the clients selling market.

Only from US companies the last year or so we got questions if we have the most neutral rum there is. Even when we propose light rums taken of at 95,5% ABV from a colomn still, from any county possible ( e.g. Guyana, Trinidad, Jamaica, Barbados, Reunion, Mauritsius, you name it) It all is still not neutral enough!

The whole Vodka "mind set" of many in the US, seems to have some influence on the types of rum they want to launch.

Be assured that looking at rum is totally different than looking at Vodka, and some congeners just need to be in rum, otherwise one could call it Vodka as well.

I would love to have some comments from US rum fanatics,

Scottes
09-20-2007, 10:01 AM
Personally I'd love to find a white/light rum that retains a taste of molasses and still retains some fruitiness and floral notes and some sweetness.

In "And A Bottle Of Rum" Wayne Curtis describes a meeting with Stephen Remsberg and having a taste of an old Bacardi, 1920s I think. That describes something that I'd love to taste in a white rum today.


Cruzan White might be the closest thing to what I imagine, but it is still too light and lacks the molasses flavor. If only one could triple all the good tastes in Cruzan White... The other day I thought about trying a nice white agricole mixed with something like Cruzan - though I'd like something with more molasses - in maybe a 1:4 or 1:5 ratio. Or maybe I'm crazy....

Dood
09-20-2007, 12:38 PM
Personally I'd love to find a white/light rum that retains a taste of molasses and still retains some fruitiness and floral notes and some sweetness.

In "And A Bottle Of Rum" Wayne Curtis describes a meeting with Stephen Remsberg and having a taste of an old Bacardi, 1920s I think. That describes something that I'd love to taste in a white rum today.

QFE. The "white-bread" vodka style of drink is not what I, as a rum drinker, want from a spirit calling itself rum. I want to know I'm drinking rum without having to see the bottle.

IMO, rum isn't supposed to be neutral.

Troy
09-20-2007, 06:29 PM
Only from US companies the last year or so we got questions if we have the most neutral rum there is. Even when we propose light rums taken of at 95,5% ABV from a colomn still, from any county possible ( e.g. Guyana, Trinidad, Jamaica, Barbados, Reunion, Mauritsius, you name it) It all is still not neutral enough!



These people should be drinking vodka! If you distill out too many cogeners I don't even consider it rum anymore. Sure, it might technically be rum but you lose the flavors that make it rum in my opinion.

I can see where one might want to clean it up a bit more for a spiced rum that isn't going to be aged since you can soften it a bit. Still, you have to be careful not to lose the rum essence.

angelsword
09-21-2007, 11:16 AM
If you distill out too many cogeners I don't even consider it rum anymore. Sure, it might technically be rum but you lose the flavors that make it rum in my opinion.


Distilled to 95% and with charcoal filtration, the rum technically becomes a vodka under U.S. law.

Scottes
09-21-2007, 05:00 PM
I thought that vodka must be distilled to 95%, but not that any spirit distilled to 95% is vodka... Maybe I'm wrong here?

Troy
09-21-2007, 05:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that the TTB says rum has to be under 190 proof at distillation now that I think about it. I'll go take a look at the TTB site and see what it says.

Troy
09-21-2007, 05:22 PM
Here is an interesting quote from the TTB site about vodka:

The standard of identity for vodka was promulgated in 1949, in T.D. 5707, 1949-2 C.B. 252. The standard for vodka provided that it was neutral spirits distilled from any material at or above 190 proof, reduced to not more than 110 proof and not less than 80 proof and, after such reduction in proof, so treated as to be without distinctive character, aroma, or taste

Edward Hamilton
09-24-2007, 02:01 PM
According to the TTB, rum is a spirit distilled from fermented sugar cane, sugar cane syrup, sugar cane molasses or other sugar cane by-products at less than 95%alochol by volume having the taste, aroma and characteristics generally attributed to rum and bottled at not less than 40% alcohol by volume.

I remember failing an English test because I used a word to define the same word, but then I didn't have the authority of the US government.

I fully agree that the vodka-rums people are searching for aren't going to be popular with rum drinkers. A few of the molasses based white rums that have made an impression on me recently are Appleton White, Flor de Cana, Botran and Prichard's Crystal. There are more but I'll have to add them at a later date.

scheer
09-24-2007, 04:15 PM
Yes Ed, there is 1% difference according to the EU legislation, Rum must there be distilled below 96% ABV, so most of the light rum producers will produce at approx 95,5% to save as much shipping costs per LAA.
Rum also must have the organoleptic caracteristics of rum... This resulted in a visit from a group of customs officers, to have a full lecture to show the differences between the very light rums and e.g. alcohol or vodka. They do blind testing and I can tell you this is not an easy job to do to be 100% correct at all time.

scheer
11-26-2007, 06:03 PM
Troy,

There are differences in legislation in US "rum law' and non US rum "law.

In the EU e.g. the legislation says; rum must be distilled below 96% ABV which is 192 proof.
When its distilled above 96% ABV you have to claim it as alcohol.

And you are correct about the US parameters.

Ed

RumBarPhilly
11-26-2007, 08:52 PM
Bambu Rum is a rum produced by David Kanbar (son of the Skyy empire) who design a rum to prevent hang-overs for his wife (as the story goes), so he went about quadruple distilling and triple filtering his rum. Its produced in Antigua, the only island he states that would be able to manufacture what he desires. To leave the essence of the cane in his rum, his rums are produced in small batched. Im not sure if this does anything, but he says it does.

I've had Bambu and I do enjoy it, its smooth and still does have some molasses characteristics. The bottle is gorgeous, except for the pink label with Bambu's name on it, supposedly, this is the rum marketed towards women. I've got plenty on hand for anybody to try down these ways.

danimal
11-29-2007, 08:03 PM
Hi,
you might try Superior Light rum from Grenada Distillers. It doesn't have the "zip" of molasses, but I like its flavor profile. Quite complex for a white rum, with a lot of the characteristics that you mention.

Dan


Personally I'd love to find a white/light rum that retains a taste of molasses and still retains some fruitiness and floral notes and some sweetness.


Or maybe I'm crazy....