Casa Bacardi

[jsprop]

Is there a way to get my hand on more Casa?? I was told that Bacardi in the Bahamas has some. I had frends going that way, but they never made it to Bacardi.
Thanks John

[angelsword]

Casa Bacardi 8 yr is easy to find. Are you perhaps refering to Casa Bacardi 20 yr.? I have never seen a bottle myself.

[jsprop]

Casa 8 year is what I have. I have asked to order it, but have not had any luck.

[jsprop]

I found this. Is this the same thing?

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=460602&image=63538996&images=63538996&formats=0&format=0

[justbob]

Is it really any good?

I have yet to find a Bacardi product that makes me happy to have them as a distillery.

Most of the time, I find the bat to simply delude the name of rum and over-advertise to the point that most Americans can refuse to try any "real" rum and can't escape the allure of that rot-gut.

[Edward Hamilton]

Casa Bacardi 8 yr is easy to find.

Take a good look at that Bacardi 8 label and I think you'll find that the label doesn't say Aged 8 years, as it would have to to be an age statement. Bacardi claims that " Ron 8 Años," isn't an age statement but a label name.

[angelsword]

Take a good look at that Bacardi 8 label and I think you'll find that the label doesn't say Aged 8 years, as it would have to to be an age statement. Bacardi claims that " Ron 8 Aсos," isn't an age statement but a label name.

Hmmm.
US regulations from the TTB website:
"(a) Misleading brand names. No label shall contain any brand name, which, standing alone, or in association with other printed or graphic matter, creates any impression or inference as to the age, origin, identity, or other characteristics of the product unless the appropriate TTB officer finds that such brand name (when appropriately qualified if required) conveys no erroneous impressions as to the age, origin, identity, or other characteristics of the product."

[Edward Hamilton]

TTB regulations are enforced with a wide brush, the usual answer is that they have so many things to do they can't do everything.

[jsprop]

Angelsword,
Where have you seen the Casa?

Justbob,
I like it. It's one of the rums on the bar that seems to be going down, so others are drinking also.

[Bahamian]

edward, what exactly makes you think that bacardi 8 is not aged for eight years? the taste?
exerpt from bacardi8 website:
"... the distillates are kept in old small casks made of white oak which are famous for their rich aroma. the distillates then remain in the casks for at least eight years, benefiting from the warm and mild carribean climate as well as from the aromas of the wood thar encloses them."
(found at www.bacardi8.com)

[Edward Hamilton]

From discussions with Bacardi people at trade shows, the label, and the taste, I can't conclude that this rum is aged 8 years. If it was, why wouldn't they just state that this was an 8 year old rum on the label instead of just using the number 8 on the label. There are several examples of using numbers on labels which have no relevance to the age of the spirit. But this practice isn't limited to the rum industry. Does Old No. 7 mean anything to you? How about Anniversario 21?

I used to find Matusalem Rum from the Bahamas with a label that clearly stated "15 Years Old" but no one I ever talked to believed it was aged nearly that long. But since it was sold in Bahamas and not the US or Europe, the age statement wasn't considered anything other than advertising.

It is interesting to me that all of the Bacardi 8 I see in the US is from the Bahamas, unlike their other rums. If I'm misinformed I would welcome comments from anyone at the world's largest rum distiller to correct me.

[Rum Runner]

Good Points Ed. On the stuff sold down here the label reads 8 Anos. Which in the Spanish language would be taken to mean 8 years old. The label does not specifically state that the rum is aged 8 years before bottling...but, the title would certainly make you think such...Which is probably what they had in mind. The back label states "Produce of Bahamas. Bottled in San Juan, PR", but gives no indication of where it is aged. Is the stuff sold in the Mainland bottled in Florida? Of all the Bacardi offerings, I do quite like this one.
p.s. I do not work for Bacardi :-)

[Bahamian]

of course you are right (vat 19 is never ever aged 19 years and so on), i only wondered if Bacardi is really that arrant, not only to put that number on their label (not only that, but it's "ron 8 años", what is a little more than old no 7 - my girlfrind is spanish so i know ;-) but to give "facts" like this on their web page ...

guess i have to do the distillery tour before they close their doors here at new providence (what will happen next year), even if I'm not interested at all in that industrial way of mass production and will not buy a bottle at the end of the tour - already got some bottles "chic charney" by ole nassau and "don lorenzo" as Chrismas presents for friends home in Berlin.

on the other hand: will they tell me the truth there? don't think so...
and i have never been to a distillery before - should Bacardi realy be my first...?!?

[Count Silvio]

Old No 7 is not so bad as the stories of the name are publicly available. It is still a little confusing though if you don't know the story behind the number.

on the other hand: will they tell me the truth there? don't think so...
and i hve never been to a distillery before - should bacardi realy be my first...?!? Two words: carbon dating. :)

[Bahamian]

nothing against "old no 7"! don't know it at all! i mentioned it because ed did and i guess that was only because of the confusing name...

and by the way: what's "carbon dating" (excuse me, my English has still be to be improved)?

[Count Silvio]

That carbon dating thing was just a little joke I made.

Carbon dating is a technique used to determine the age of organic material less than 50,000 years old. Age is determined by examining the loss of a carbon isotpe. For purposes of dating artifacts, the rate of loss of this unstable isotope is assumed to be constant. Commonly used to determine the age of fossiles.

[Bahamian]

sorry, i should have gotten (is that correct?!?) that!
in german it's the "Radiocarbon-Methode" or "C-14-Methode"..
thanx for explaining a joke ;-)

[Scottes]

I used to find Matusalem Rum from the Bahamas with a label that clearly stated "15 Years Old" but no one I ever talked to believed it was aged nearly that long.
Isn't the Gran Reserva a Solera? That could explain the "15 years" - if that was the oldest rum in the Solera system....

[Edward Hamilton]

Is the stuff sold in the Mainland bottled in Florida? Of all the Bacardi offerings, I do quite like this one.
p.s. I do not work for Bacardi :-)

The label only says Product of the Bahamas, imported by Bacardi, etc. I believe it is bottled in the Bahamas.

[Edward Hamilton]

Isn't the Gran Reserva a Solera? That could explain the "15 years" - if that was the oldest rum in the Solera system....

If you read the Matusalem Gran Reserva label closely it says 15 Solera Blender. You can infer what you want to from that. There isn't much more to the story on the label though I've heard some tall tales over the years but that's another discussion.

[Rum Runner]

The label only says Product of the Bahamas, imported by Bacardi, etc. I believe it is bottled in the Bahamas.

Very Curious indeed...They are shipping in bulk and bottling in San Juan, PR., for the local market..and then bottling in the Bahamas for export to the USA.The label here says bottled in San Juan. PR